…i also got the most brutal drum sounds out of an a4…
…heat can beef up ANYTHING…so does the oto bisquit…
…and if u really need a dedicated rythmbox and ur a littlebit of an diy guy…
sonic potions LXR…
the only digital drum machine with balls…this unit sounds like raw techno right out of the box, even straight plugged into any soundsystem…there it is already…big bang…nice mutation skills, where u can flawlessly morph between two different drum kits at any time…lot’s of drumkits ready to go…endless space to create new ones…the bit reduction is a beauty of it’s own…the step sequencer is tight as fuk, while each of the six sounds can be played in realtime on top of it all via voice stealing, with costumizable prefixed ratios of different rolls and flams…
with a real individual sonic flavour…no roland mock ups here…while the kik that can sing deep down low anyways, with a tail that can be as long as u want it…
the set is around 200 bux…and if don’t wanna built it on ur own, u can easily find someone else to do it and u end up with a machine around 300 bux…it’s plastic, but does’nt feel cheap at all… has a dark grey, half transparent shell in the end, that let u see through a bit, so u see it’s motherboard and chips inside…a lightweight that spits out raw rumble big time…
On Digitone or Digitakt you make the pattern and you want the same “kit” on another pattern, all you need to do is copy the pattern to the new location then erase the the sequence data and you’ll have the same “kit” with a new empty pattern.
this is all well and good, but becomes a major PITA if you later on realize that all those pattns you made with the same copy would sound better with a few tweaks on the sounds… getting those tweaks consistent between the already pattns, eek
I have been hooking my DFAM up to my A4 recently, and that is a wild and very usable solution. One of the CV tracks to advance and then 3 CV tracks to plock various modulations. With conditional trigs and all the other Elektron sequencer tricks I have gotten a lot more milage out of it than I thought possible, and soundwise you can do some wild stuff.
This is a major issue on dt and dn.
I hate it so much.
MnM is easy. Just save the kit. If you need a pattern different sounding just make a new kit for this particular pattern.
Yea totally understand, I’ve been down that road. Unfortunately that’s the only option with the DT/DN. On the positive side I get a lot of interesting changing evolving songs because I never adjust each pattern exactly the same. (Mainly out of laziness)
Excellent work! I figure if its good enough for you and SNTS it would certainly work for the OP.
For me sampling various sources like the DFAM and other analogs through distortion into the DT gets me there, along with occasional extra percussion lines from the DN.
It is not that hard on the dt to get sounds to match up especially if you are just talking about the track sound as that can be copied and pasted on it’s own. It is a little extra work but nothing that completely stops creativity.
I run a mmm and a dt together. The problem with the old kit system was making you remember what patterns pertain to a certain kit and if you changed something in a kit you didn’t want to, all patterns associated with the kit are affected and messed up. One could go a bit before even realizing all the other patterns are messed up.
Both ways ultimately have positives and negatives. Really depends on what the usage is.
This whole discussion about sounds, kits and patterns in elektron machines is completely besides the point of this topic, which is : drum machines for hard techno.
The dt and other elektron machines have been mentioned in this thread for hard techno usage. Discussing how the systems within the elektrons work seems quite on topic as they are drum machines/synths that can be used for hard techno. And, I believe, it has been brought up that one system may be more difficult to utilize for hard techno.
Discussing how those systems work then lends itself to the conversation in the form of information that can be utilized for making a drum machine selection.
