- output arpeggiator via midi
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Just for my interest, a short fade is the same as a short attack. Are there any benefits of having fades implemented instead of increasing the attack value beyond convenience? Serious question
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Swing per track would be lovely.
I always wondered why m:s and m:c are the only elektron devices that have it.
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Rarely does any feature exist in a vacuum. Technically, every device could have every feature but then you would have to multiply these features by the number of tracks and permutations it creates for other devices. There’s a bazzilion of dependencies we’re not aware of. From compute limitations, codebase branching cost, backwards compatibility, to “we haven’t thought about it” or not making sense business-wise – there’s a number of reasons and it can be any of them.
Please let me start sampling after the pattern has played once so I can keep effect and decay tails
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Yeah, it’s like mono sampling. There’s a number of reasons why the DT2 can’t do it that we’re not aware of. But i’m still wondering why. 
But a fix has been promised:
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I should have been more specific in my post, and included the Werp machine in the feature request as well. This machine in particular is also unusable because of the clicking it introduces.
The “machines” on this instrument are newly designed workflows introduced by Elektron, and they are designed to make certain processes convenient and act as a jumping off point for sound. For example, the functions fulfilled by the grid machine are actually profoundly rudimentary - one could use most samplers or a daw to create and play back evenly spaced slices of a sample, in fact this would be a much more simplistic way of handling slicing than is normally done. Elektron brought this into the little design they call “machine” in order to implement the convenience of having that as a jumping off point or set of parameters to work within. The machines ARE convenience. Therefore, I find it senseless that they are actually introducing difficulty.
This is a lot more pronounced in the Werp machine than the grid machine, I have noticed. What it produces on most of my samples is nearly unlistenable with clicks, and introduces a lot of difficulty in fighting with this design - which is simply a flaw.
The mythos of Elektron products is that they have some inner wisdom you need to work around. I think this general approach to Elektron was set up with the Octatrack, which in my opinion is a brilliant instrument, and was my first Elektron, in fact my first desktop instrument ever. Moving to the Digitakt and its machines, it seems like Elektron is determining a lot more of the workflow through these little designs - for the convenience of using them as jumping off points. You don’t build these workflows up yourself like with the OT, you jump in to these predetermined little presets kind of. So at the risk of being completely repetitive, it really baffles me why they would leave these designs so unfinished in that they introduce new problems. I find myself just building up my own workflows thoughtfully p-locking from a one-shot rather than battle the silly designs on grid and werp… Clicking is almost never a happy accident or quirk. It’s unpleasant and harms the musicality of most work. It should not be INTRODUCED by a design.
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Someone in a Digitone thread linked a video that showed a shortcut (Func + H I think) that selects transients in intervals of 4 up to 32 as a modulation source.
I wish DT2 had a similar shortcut for chopping sample transients. Or is there?
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Mid Side Encoder: This would be really important!
Detecting transients and chopping/slicing based on what is detected?
That would be amazing, but the DT2 can’t even manage simple, evenly spaced grid slicing without adding clicks and pops
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Indeed. Hopefully they focus on this area being that it is a Sampler after all.lol. Coming from the 404mkII it’s been head scratching.
Luckily, I have 404 mkII on the desk to handle much of the chopping when necessary. SP’s also always listening and ready to chop up whatever I’m doing on the Digi’s. A very great combo actually.
It’s come as disappointment to many, how below average a sampler the Digitakt II has turned out to be
Could Elektron remedy this? almost certainly.
Will they? As each week passes, I become less and less sure
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Still waiting for those polyphonic sample tracks or polyhonic sample machine
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I think it’s a great instrument - doesn’t feel below average to me.
certainly room for improvement but it’s amazing imo. sure updates will come - DNII + overbridge will eat a lot of dev time
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Maybe not for you, maybe disappointing it hasn’t been updated, but below average idk, what are the average samplers we are comparing to here? To me it is still one of the all time great samplers and with a great midi sequencer, too.
There are definitely things Elektron needs to fix (mono sampling, clicking, post-save editing/slicing) and I think many of us expected at least most of that to be done by now - I am a bit disappointed especially with the lack of mono sampling that we had on the first one and was taken away cough cough.
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Same, one of my favorite things about the DT2 is how easy it is to quickly sample and assign audio to a track. I use it way more than I ever thought I would.
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it’s not below average in my opinion. compared to other samplers I’ve used I put it right up there.
an average could only ever be subjective anyway.
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I think it’s a great instrument too, quite brilliant at times, but IMO it’s below average as a sampler.
Both things are possible at the same time
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I would agree that there are some disappointing aspects of the DT2 but I think Elektron has earned the benefit of the doubt in terms of how they continually improve their instruments over time. I have a lot of confidence that the DT2 will be no different, even if I do get a little impatient to have some fixes and updates. I have to mention again the glitchiness when editing a sample. Fine tuning the start and end points is such a pain now as compared to DT1. I’m really surprised that I am the only one I’ve seen mention this. I suppose it could just be my eyes getting old and tired but the way the screen is so jittery and jumps around makes it really hard to keep track of start and end points especially with longer samples. Oh well, old man yells at cloud.
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