I recommend / advocate [ Sequencer ] mode.
I read that sequencer mode doesnt actually save anything and is only for use with a computer?
Try the AH QuPac for a mixer.
I went for the Qu16 and love it.
Why do you want to haul a mixer around to shows? The whole point of the OT is that you can get by without a mixer thanks to the 4 inputs and flexible routing options. If you really need one just spec it, any decent venue will have a mixer for you.
Im looking to have my entire setup in one case, so its for home use as well as live use
I’m after the same goal.
Ideally I only plug in stereo XLR, and power after removing the lid to my case.
Just dive in, & sort it out along the way, eventually you’ll realize what you really need/want
Oooops, that’s a bald statement! I use a mixer, it’s absolutely neccesary in my set-up and I use hands-on control for a lot of stuff. There are many different approaches, some people go minimalistic, some don’t!
For studio, sure, but for live I still think it’s silly to drag a mixer around unless you need really specific functions like patch recall, FX or complex routing. They’re big, heavy and most venues have one or can find you what you need.
So I’m silly and happy to be. Most venues have a desk (I hope so and it’s required on the rider) and they will get my L/R feeds. I take care of my 35 (and counting) inputs and 20 or so outputs. As I mentioned before: not everyone is going minimalistic or even wanting to. That’s a choice, not an obligation and noone is silly for making it’s own choices 
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Agreed from my experience also - most venues have a pio nexus mixer that I plug into.
I would say that fits under the ‘specific functions’ exception I mentioned - if you’re using 35 inputs then carrying an extra mixer is probably not a big deal. But if the mixer is more than like 50% of your entire setup’s weight/volume then yeah that’s IMO silly for something you can just spec.
No shade anyway, mega setups are great, was just letting OP know they have that option
When you’re looking up the Proteus you should also check out the Roland JV1080 and JV2080 - both classic ROMplers that were so successful (IIRC the 1080 is the best selling synth of all time, even beat the DX-7) they’re easy to find and inexpensive and sound great. It would definitely cover a lot of classic 90s house/techno/trance type sounds and it’s easy to program. Only downside is if you want to add expansion cards some of them have gotten almost as expensive as the 1080 itself, but there are more than enough built in sounds - you could program new patches for years without ever needing an expansion.
EDIT: I’ve played a lot of shows at a lot of different kinds and sies of venues and I’ve never once in my life seen a venu that had a mixer for artist use. They’ll have a board for the hosue sound system buthaving an extra one just lying around in case an artist just happens to need one is unheard of IME, and even if it was common I wouldn’t count on a house-provided mixer to have the features you need (or even work).
Maybe it’s jsut a USA thing, live music is in pretty bad shape here and I know European venues, at least, are a lot more likely to provide basic backline equipment like amplifiers and drumkits for touring acts, so maybe they provide hosue mixers too and I haven’t heard about it because all of the friends I 've had who toured there either played in bands or did noise or eurorack, and none of them ever needed mixers on stage.
My solution is to keep any live solo setup minimal enough that I can carry everything in one load (which makes it a lot less likely you’ll have gear stolen), so as much as I like working on mixers that’s the first thing to go when I’m getting a live set together. I also stopped bringing outboard rverbs and jsut use the OT’s internal stuff for live performance now. The thing is, most venues have fairly live room acoustics and I would always end up needing to cut back on the amount of reverb I was using so much that it didn’t really matter too much what I actually used, so that’s one less box to carry. For a while I was taking out my OTO BAM but in most rooms if I turned it up enough to justify using it, the mix would get muddy. If I really need a sound with a big, lsh reverb on it I sample it with teverb baked in, but really very little reverb goes a long way live.
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I bought an A&H Xone 96, it has a lot of usable inputs, also for synth, drums, touchable EQ, additonal 2x analogue filters, with HP/LP/BP. Its 7 kg, and its very big, it feels very sturdy, and i like it better than my qu pac as its more immediate.
I normally bring some gear to friends to jam with, but for now it was a bit too heavy to lift everything by foot. (laptop, cables, NI Maschine, Headphones, Digitone.) in backback & one additonal Laptop bag. (I walk through my city, maybe less of an issue when using a car.)
Maybe with a trolley it would be possible. Having everything in one go is a must, if you dont have a roadie imho.
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Are you dead set on all hardware non negotiable? For another amazing sounding synth that could be sampled down into Octatrack have you considered Omnisphere?
With the new hardware integration the Virus becomes a controller for Omnisphere with every function on the panel doing what it says to Omnisphere… The new library contains faithful multisamples most modern poly and mono synths. The thing is huge.
For drums I have my Rytm mk1 sitting next to my Octatrack mk2 which I bought a month or so ago after having the Rytm for a year… such a perfect combination just beautiful.
That pretty much was the point attempted to make. What seems to be unclear, is that some artists use a mixer creatively, having specific cues in memory. It’s part of the set-up, part of the routine and can’t just be “spec’d”, or rather, it could but it should be the exact same brand/model so that we can load the showfile. One might also “spec” an octatrack, a blofeld, a sub37, an analog keys, a jomox whatever, some eventides, all the wiring… and just bring some CF cards and a laptop (oh wait, why bring a laptop, you can spec that as well and leave your files in the cloud).
And to be clear, noone ever said “you MUST use a mixer”… I just reacted to @nfim 's statement that said that said
which I found a bit one-sided.
I live and work in Europe and never heard of that either. If you’re a bigger act you can spec a backline, but all of the riders I have managed spec’d reasonably common gear, nothing specialized (a Nord Lead for the keys, a couple of fender amps for guitar and such: stuff you can expect to find for rent easily). Artists that needed a mixer on stage always brought theirs. Besides, nowadays digital desks are super compact and lightweight, and so are ABS cases to protect them. The Qu16 from A&H that started the discussion is particularly compact. But of course if you live and work primarily in a big city and use public transportation or Uber to get to your everyday gigs, than you have to adapt to that fact.
Indeed, actually my rider also includes the music itself and someone to play it. I don’t even need to show up!
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Holograms are hype these days
I run a stage tech rental company in Europe and I often get international and local electronic music artists’ tech riders to fulfill with mixers in them. Very common. Of course they re not highly exotic mixers. Usually 8, 12 or 16 chan analog mixers, and Pioneer/A&H/Rane DJ mixers.
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That makes sense.
Any other weird or esoteric stuff people have asked for? For a while I heard Octatracks were coming up on riders, see much of that these days?
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