Cirklon V2

Development recently has been a bit slow that’s true, but I have no doubt this will change once v2 is in full swing and it won’t be that far off. New space for OS features was obviously essential to move forward. My biggest wishes are since some years are:

  • save/load CVIO configs
  • more AUX rows per track
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Colin mentionend backporting 1.3 to Cirklon 1, that might further delay new features for CK2.

More Aux rows are direly needed, but that might take be a significant effort as aux row identifiers are everywhere, even encoded in aux parameters.

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i have the feeling that the cirklon isnt where colins heart is anymore since a long time. but thats really just a feeling based on what he does outside cirklon and that i can imagine him to get bored about something after a while. of course hope i am wrong, more aux would be really great etc etc. but i am happy with the cirklon

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Props to Barbara: I had bought the CK2 upgrade kit on Friday, and yesterday evening I remembered that there were colored caps for sale on their website, and that it could be fun to pimp my unit. A pity I had to pay the transport twice, but who cares.
This morning, without asking, Barbara refunded the extra transport costs and left a message.
A little gesture, of course, but I really love integrity, it’s so refreshing in nowadays’ world :slight_smile:

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When I read about Colin restoring Aphex Twin’s GR-1 earlier this year I caught myself having similar thoughts. But then I can understand how side-projects are somehow necessary and relaxing, and often rekindle passion for a main project.

Yes, there is still a lot of potential in it that I have yet to explore.

On the other hand there is a growing number of features that I see in other sequencers that may be achievable with Cirklon one way or another, but a simple and accessible implementation can open so many creative possibilities. Some examples:

  • Step Conditions (like 2/3 or not !2/3, or even FILL and !FILL) make it dead simple to create variations easily. In more recent Elektron sequencers, Conditions and Probability are separated, which is so amazing. If you have access to DT2, DN2 or TV, take a bassline and set two adjacent steps to 70%, then set one to 2/2, the other to !3/3. Predictable and random at the same time,
  • Euclidean sequencers (especially when used with chords, or an arpeggiator)
  • MIDI LFOs (especially with parameters that can be plocked or remote-controlled, like in Elektron sequencers or Pyramid)

I see the 1.3 beta as a stepping stone towards many interesting features, stream processing opens Cirklon up to MIDI effects, like MIDI LFOs, but also like Euclidean sequencer operating on a pattern or an input stream, then it could even to place chords, or place notes picked from a cord consecutively, or arpeggiators running on an CK pattern.

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Had to look up the Yamaha GR-1 topic. Wow, seriously impressive. If I were in Colin’s position it would be difficult pass on such an interesting job!

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cool, thanks for the informations!

i have some condition stuff set up. but it took a bit until i found a way to do it and would be very very happy to have it on the cirklon in a proper not intertrack way

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Colin finally added an option that has fixed the double notes appearing in the p3 patterns when FTS is turned on.
Different topic here: Not many Cirklon videos out there that get straight to the point but this one does…

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Is this still in Beta? I don’t see a new version on the downloads page.

It’s always beta, but this is the latest one thats there. It went up yesterday. It does have issues after install currently. You have to do the fresh backup thing. It breaks no-fts tags on instruments when its is on. im also having issues with shuffle acting odd, but other than that I love it. There’s a post about it on the forum.

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It sure feels like that. The last build in 1.3 beta was 5 months ago. That is quite a stretch, but good to hear that things are moving again.

I’ll wait until that’s stable before I decide on the upgrade to CK2, though. I might get 20% off by then :grinning:

The last update before all the new routing reworking I’ve been on for ages and it’s been super solid.

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Peace!

For anyone who uses a master clock between the Cirklon and your DAW, I’m hoping to confirm something before diving into another configuration session.

If I want to sync my DAW to the Cirklon, say using an ACME-4 Snd, is it correct that I’d use one of the five midi ports, which would then slave it once clock reaches the device?

I was diving in the manual and believe I was misled by GPTs regarding the sync port; it apparently doesn’t receive clock and only sends it via DinSync.

I think I’m close to what I’m after, so thanks for the replies in advance.

Superb example of the Cirklon.

Don’t know the specifics. But yeah connect your daw direct to one of the MIDI ports . Enable mclck send to norml in midi port config and cirklon port will spit out midi clock/transport. Then adjust daw midi settings to external control

Today I dusted off the Cirklon, and I had never connected a MIDI keyboard before.
Everything works fine, the only weird thing is that when I record while a pattern is selected, it does record the notes, but I can’t hear them as I play (as if the Cirklon stopped sending MIDI to the synth at the same time).
If instead I stay in the track view rather than the pattern view, I can both hear and record.
Is that how it’s supposed to work? It feels really strange that I can’t stay in pattern view while playing and recording.

@S Did you correctly program the soft thru option ?
Menu/more/midiport config : edtrk (edit tract) ?

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yes it’s in edtrk mode

Did you try : record/menu/mthru ?

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Cheers Cirklon users!

I have an issue where my Pro 3 (which I’d like to use as my midi keyboard) sends midi volume data to my other synths, when I want to mostly play it as a midi keyboard when I’ve selected a different track or synth.

When I want to turn the volume down to the Pro 3, to say hear another synth, it turns the volume down to that synth if it’s selected via the Cirklon track.

Some details about my set-up that may allow others to assist:

  • The Pro 3 in on port 4, channel 1
  • The Pro 3 chains my other synths via thru ports
  • Drum machines have their own channels and don’t act as a chain to other modules

My midi configuration per each port (1 through 5)

  • soft thru - edtrk
  • thru FTS 0 - on
  • record enable - on/thru
  • mlk send - normal
  • send MTC - off

I started to GPT a fix, but it feels incredibly wasteful to run it through so many prompts for a desired result; I imagine others here my have encountered the same.

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