Can the A4 work Paraphonic?

[CCMP]

I’m thinking ala Moog Matriarch… is it possible to have the four A4 oscillators triggered paraphonically from the amp/filter section of one track?

[Octagonist]

Each voice has two oscillators, two subs and noise, through two filters and an envelope. The oscilators and subs have different tunings (OK the subs are linited here). So each voice is already paraphonic. Each voice is “like a Matriarch” minus two full oscilators but plus two subs. The A4 is almost four matriarchs in one box.

But that’s not quite what you’re asking, is it?

You could:

• pass individual outs of voices 1-3 to a mixer, then feed the mixer into the Ext. In, and set voice 4 to use the Ext. In as its source
• Have voices 2, 3, 4 use NEI as their source, so audio passes from voice 1 to 4. Then only use voice 4’s filter. I think you’d need to get funky with which ocsillators of each voice you use, and having matching trigs on each track, or similar
• NOT mess around with feeding audio to unusual places, instead set up the filters on each voice to be exactly the same, and then set up performance macros to control all four filters the same way. Not strictly paraphonic, but might give the impression of such

[CCMP]

Thanks for your reply.

I’ve just been through Poly Config to see if I could get it to do the Matriarch thing, and I’m 98% sure it can’t now.

That’s ok though, the A4 does a ton of other 2, 3 and 4 voice tricks that not much else can do… and a ton that the Matriarch can’t.

[LORNIVERSE]

I think the closest you can do is p-lock Tune and and volume for each OSC separately to sort of fake them being paraphonic, but that’s of course a pain and not real-time playable

[B_LD]

There were (as expected ) a few ideas around paraphony in the past… maybe one of the threads turns out to be useful to anyone…

A "MIDI hack" to turn the A4 into a "paraphonic A8"

Hi Everyone! There’s no magic here but a bit of MIDI trickery let’s you play paraphonically on the Analog Four (and Analog Keys but with an external keyboard) I hope you like it!

Paraphonic Mode for A4/AK?

Is this possible?? If I could only see one more feature implemented, it would be this. It’d be amazing to have a 4-voice (or even 2 if the sub oscillators are hard-wired) paraphinic mode you could use for one voice/track; people who like to compose entire tracks using only the four voices of the A4/AK would especially appreciate this.

[Hotstuff]

Pan track 1 hard left. Pan track 2-4 hard right. Put a short cable from mix out R to an input. Set one of track 1’s oscillators to that input. You’d be sacrificing one oscillator of track 1 but that would be a quick and dirty way to do it.

Paraphony is underrated. Love the sound of it as well. Seems there might be a way to achieve this with midi to retrig track 1 and using neighboring oscillators like osctogonist suggests. Or 3 note paraphony, somehow using track 1 as the filter, and a polyphonic voice allocation. Will have to think about this and experiment later.

[Tchu]

Are you looking to play some Chords with one Track?

If so, on page 72 of the manual :

To get a C minor chord (C, Eb, G), set the oscillator TUN parameter to +7 semitones (for the G), set the sub oscillator to 5TH (for the C), and set the other oscillator to +3 semi-tones (for the minor third, Eb). To get a C major chord, set the other oscillator to +4 instead (for the major third, E). Suspended chords are created by setting TUN of the other oscillator to +5 (the perfect fourth, F) for a Csus4 chord, or to +2 (the major second, D) for a Csus2 chord. Moreover, four-note chords like the major 7th chord (maj7) and minor 7th chord (m7) are possible by using both oscillators’ sub oscillators in 5TH modes, as these chords consist of two perfect fifths. With oscillator coarse tune settings of +7 and +11 semitones (G and B, respectively) the sub oscillators will be placed at C and E notes, forming a C major 7th (Cmaj7) chord. Tuning the oscillators to +7 and +10 semitones
instead (G and Bb) the sub oscillators end up at C and Eb, forming a C minor 7th (Cm7) chord. The desired chord can be heard when the keyboard or the sequencer plays a C note. When playing other notes, the chord will transpose accordingly, enabling simple chord progressions. Transitions between the minor and major variants can be done on step basis in the sequencer by parameter locking the TUN parameter of the other oscillator to +3 or +4 where desired.

[CCMP]

@Tchu

Are you looking to play some Chords with one Track?

I wrote the manual on this… , and that’s not what I’m trying to do. I’ve just been loving the sounds I’m getting out of my Matriarch in paraphonic mode, both with and without Multi-Trig active; I’d have liked to do something similar on my A4.
Ironically, I didn’t like the Matriarch’s paraphonic behaviour for quite some time, I wasn’t used to the ‘weird’ retriggering and wanted it to be more ‘4-note poly’. Go figure.

[Affectionate-Bee-781]

@CCMP

Matriarch in paraphonic mode

Default? Or are you using any of the global settings (round robin, paraphonic unison, etc)?

[jaystink]

Hmm… This is a very interesting thought…
It’s almost certainly impossible to trigger that way natively.
I wonder if it would be possible with some clever midi manipulation…

Envelope 1 could increase the level of osc1, and env2 could open osc2, but the envelopes aren’t exactly addressable over midi are they…