When I think about behringer, I always remember by 2nd small mixing desk back in 90s ⌠after 2 years using live and in studio it got noisey, cracky and a lot of distortion.
But if you are in tape style delays ⌠Behringer EM600 is such a good small piece of gear for only 40 bucks. So I guess ⌠yes they can build great gear.
Behringer mixers seem to be the biggest source of complaints, and most of them seem to be from folks who bought one from the bottom of the barrel a decade ago. I also see plenty of people with $10K in modular gear running through $40 Behringer mixers. Iâve got a handful of Berry products in my studio, and while they arenât flashy they do the job well. This synth is pretty flashy tho, and given that they seem focused on changing their public perception and this being a labor of love I think itâs going to win over the detractors.
How much less would you all pay for it if it was called the âPhat 12â? Hehehe
speculation is that it will be a competitor for the big boy analog polys
so, around $2500 or so
I donât think so, for such price people range would rather reach a DSI I guessâŚ
No, Iâd rather say 1k ⏠would be the good price tag for Behringer to really rob the whole market and bring their new synth to the âmassesâ (also I feel itâs still a high price tag).
Behringer is new to synths + they donât have a reputation of high quality instrumentsâŚ
So above this Iâm not sure people would buy blindly⌠I wouldnât.
1k⏠is the good price tag IMO.
If itâs $1,500 or less This will be first on my pre-order list. After watching this video.
hmm, buzz words like âmass marketâ and âaffordable not only for the richâ translates to me in a sub 1000 ⏠pricetag, lets say 899. Also the exterior with all the small faders and plastic buttons look quite cheap. its no competitor for moog or dsi and therefore they also need to keep it below 1k.
im not that interested in cheap polys, even if they are fully analog. I have good monophonic analogs to play with the knobs and when I need a poly-sound a midi controller with a digital emulation in a plugin will do the trick as chords are mostly not in the center of a mix. so main question for me is if they sound better as an arturia V or NI komplete to be worth the hassel with the hardware. For me a hardware synth needs improved knobs and keyboards when compared to a midi controller to give me more playfullness. Im afraid this concept to get out cheap hardware wont do the trick for me.
I cannot judge the sound from the few videos yet, for that I need at least a full hands on video with the final hardware. what rings my belll is that they say âthe fx pump new live in the soundâ, I hope this doesnt translate into âwithout the fx the bread and butter sounds are crapâ, anyway its good to have new kids on the synth block, so welcome behringer 
Pretty sure it will be something like $1499 and not sub-$1000.
I donât think itâs a synth that will add a lot to your setup in terms of sound unless you donât yet have anything with a rolandesque filter.
In terms of architecture it really appears to be a Juno 106 with everything doubled (voices, DCO, LFO) or tripled (ENV), with added PW on the saw (letâs hope itâs as nice as the crazy waveshapes on the Alpha Juno), a mod matrix, and modern effects.
Keep in mind that the chorus has always been a huge part of the sound of the Juno series. Doesnât really makes sense to suddenly start complaining about that in this context.
It does look like a real âplayerâs synthâ with just the right amount of hands-on control for quickly tweaking sound during your performance.
I am a bit surprised it doesnât seem to do digital audio out over USB and that there only appears to be a single main stereo output.
While I think this is super cool, this is more of an engineering achievement than a visionary one. Itâs a matter of being able to cram familiar combinations of features into an affordable box and push the limits of exactly how much you can cram into an analogue synth and still put a price tag on it that people can afford. But it doesnât open up new avenues or anything, itâs just the latest in the race where those with the most features win, when we die.
Iâm not complaining. I think thatâs great enough.
What I like about Elektronâs stuff is that theyâre doing things differently from the core. The second you approach the Octatrack, you have to rethink what a sampler can be, what you can use it for. And youâll find workflows and methods that will generate new kinds of tracks and songs, that no other instrument will enable you to do. Itâs not about the features, itâs about the thought behind the instrument itself. And the Rytmâs the same. The way itâs built and designed pushes you into new territory and forces you to leave old ones.
I love what Behringer is doing here. But itâs also just a step closer to a workstation keyboard with analogue power. Effects, lots of voices, solid keybed, knobs and wheels and switches to go, and an editor to boost and perhaps a sequencer as well.
But Iâm holding out for whatever Elektronâs got cooking. They always challenge me as an artist with their stuff. Youâre never in the comfort zone with their gear. And I love that.
Well, this does once again makes me wish Elektron would have doubled the voice count (not the number of tracks) on the Analog KeysâŚ
Iâm hoping it will be multi-timbral, or at least bi-timbral.
Not that workstation-ey if it isnât. And 12 voices is quite a bit for a single part.
Funny how this synth brought me to feel like I need more voices these days⌠Brought back the Blofeld on the table
About the name âDeepMindâ, Behringer expressed himself.
To me it will be the missing poly among my AK and AR.
Every time I see âDeep Mind 12â, in my mind I hear âDeep space nineâ
Thatâs kinda what Iâm looking for tooâŚ
Have AR, AK, OT and Sub 37, need a poly now and Iâm pretty much set.
behringer has always been pretty vocal about their products
The desktop prototype version:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2016/08/01/should-behringer-make-this-deepmind-12-desktop-synthesizer/
yeh i wasnt really interested until they brought out the desktop version⌠now im much more excited - i had been eyeing the Parva but with all the design problems it wasnt looking goodâŚ
12 voice poly would be amazing, but im still wondering about that price⌠im hoping they pull a classic behringer and give you 1000 features for 10 dollars
The more I look at that desktop module the more I like it. I do like the idea of a full keyboard on a 12 voice so I donât need to rely on my controller keyboard. But space is limited and I really love the layout of this module. Unlike the Prophet 12 module, everything is very much right there and accessible.