Cant believe its already been 10 years. Where does the time go?
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aye this is much cooler than the clonez
From the linked articleā¦
āa 2-pole/4-pole, 6db per octave filterā
Thatās an interesting way to describe a filerā¦
Trying to recall a LIMITED EDITION Behringer. The blue and gray 2600, but they never stopped making them. Theyāve done colors but all the same price. Limited Edition to jack up price seems contrary to the brand.
I notice Sweetwater now has completely dropped the Deepmind though theyāve not added the X versions yet. Maybe the X are now the new standard edition ? Time will tell.
Speculation, but this could be the situation where a parts obsolesence ( like the processor or display ) has forced a hardware version change, or a new hw version is for cost reduction, and they use the change to redo an older look. Or maybe they just did the new look to juice sales.
Speaking of new looks, can somebody redo the title on this thread, after ten years things have changed a bit. Or maybe the retro title is quaint now ?
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Everything Iāve read indicates itās just a refresh on the look ā¦ no changes inside.
HW revs donāt necessarily change functionality. For instance ASM silently revved the Hydrasynth electronic HW for a digital / analog interface part availabilty ( and SW too but only for this partās interface ), that changed absolutely nothing functionally, with nothing a user could see. You can also do a rev with nothing electronic, changing chassis material, welds, physical connections, or paint or plastics chemistry and technology, etc. You can do things like improving button motion and/or reliability. What about sliders with better quality and less wiggle, but otherwise the same physically. You can change part vendors.
Even silent internal rev changes give great opporutnities for changing cosmetic things, and as an engineer you grab those opportunities when they come your way ā especially when you are as manufacture focused in engineering as Behringer is. Even line changes in manufacture give opportunity to make cosmetic mods.
Does anyone have further detail, or is it just purely paint color and decoration ?
I didnāt know this before. The first Deepmind synth was built for Uli as a present to replace the lost synth he had crafted as a child ( someone at the company had mistakenly thrown it out ) ā without his knowledge and given to him.
From the Sweetwater interview video.
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Smells of marketing bs
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Cynicism ?
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That look like the nicest set of employee on earthā¦ hard to believe but we wonāt know what happen soā¦
This is at least my favorite and most used Behringer synth at home.
Thatās an interesting statement! Do you care to expand? Is that down to its immediacy? Or is it your go to poly? Only have other B synths that are monoās?
Genuinely interested!
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Sure @Bunker !
First, it can do really nice electronic piano sound. Mostly use it in that context, my bank A is filled with different kind of electronic Piano or light poly. And it allow me to not start my computer when Iām in a need of one of those soft sound. Itās not a Rhodes but the oscillator sync with this large number of voice can do miracle. Sometime I donāt need internal fx in this context. I just let the release at a high level, sustain really low and large decay and I have nice trail when I play.
Second thing is immediacy of use. Itās not too big or small DM12 and all fader are easy to use and remember. Itās intuitive. And it is a solid steel box. Near 10Kg but easy to grab and move.
The visual feedback with this big screen is easy for me. And there is not too much abrƩviation.
Only one real menu diving and a painful one is the FX section, and itās useable but really complex. Sure the manual might contain the details, but there I can be lost sometimes.
Mod matrix is not that complicated to achieved, really intuitive.
The 3 envelopes could be better but fully useable like that with this possibility to adjust the curve section.
Third, it can do all kind of sound, it is not that good in the bass section, but he is good in lead/poly/pad. And the fact that it has a LPF and a global variable HPF help. And that definitely help reduce itās place in a mix. And the reserve of voice allow long trail without playing FX. I was feeling that the oscillator are quite weakā¦. But thatās a bit his signature, itās quite light in sound, and sometimes this softness and light is good.
The FX are quite cool and can sound good if used lightly and can also sound dirty and digital. Butā¦ in a useful way sometimes. And at that moment it does not sound analog anymore.
I have one other poly from Behringer that I really like Pro800. Good sound, bad UI and no mod matrix and no FX. oscillator are really beefier on pro800. It is good, but just to jam I use the deepmind for immediacy and possibilities.
And I use more my deepmind than my Polybrute 6 ( too heavy to move, but itās a better synth overall and i prefer the Polybrute UI but so biiiig ), or my prologue 8 ( great synth but it is not a soft sound one). I have also a novation x-station 61 that I really like but he has not any warmness, digital are cool too when you need something straight. I let my other Elektron outside of that thread which are more on the side of programmable box, still really like them but not for playing keys for 30min.
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Thanks for your detailed reply! Iāve got quite a few B synths as well as others but Iāve always had the DM fly under my radar. Iāve never seen one in a store so never played one in the flesh. Itās one I keep meaning to get to check it out but itās not happened yet
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It is not a wahoo synth.
You can not really have a wahoo effect, or maybe on 3,4 original preset.
Itās the one synth where you can do everything and it is not difficult to make it sound like something nice, because filter and waveform are nice, simple but ok.
Itās an always second synth but in the meantime that make it quite useful!
And it sound warmer than most digital synth by default, and a bit thinner than the typical analog.
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I had a purge of all my B synths a couple of years ago (not get into it here) but in the end I couldnāt let go of the DM12D. Iāve created way too many patches on it that I really love. As stated above, itās not the beefiest (which is a good thing) and can sit really well in a mix. I like it for the same reasons I like my Juno 106 (which honestly doesnāt get much use since getting the DM) - easy/fun to program ā¦ but it can go way further than the 106.
These are some of my favorite patches for the synth:
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I recently bought this patch set, but havenāt had a chance to use it in any tracks. Sounds nice though
Anyone still using the Deepmind? I bought a second hand 12D to try with the intention of swapping it out for the keyboard version if I liked the sound. To be honest Iām really not sure what I think of it right now. Need to play a bit more I think. The workflow is fine, I like the interface. Iāve made a few patches and it sounds okay. Not bad but doesnāt wow me if Iām honest. Not like the first impressions I got when I had a Peak. What are the keys like on the 12?
The keys on the deepmind 12 are forgettable, I mean I have no issue with them at all, but donāt expect a wow effect on that side.
Mod wheel and pitch bend are okay too.
Play a bit more with it.
Use the 3xdrift parameter in the 0-30/255 range.
Use long release.
remove the bass boost.
Itās still my goto synth after a year, but mostly for epiano.
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Can I ask if youāve used the 3-octave Korg Wavestate/Modwave/Multipoly keys?
And how you would describe and compare them to the Deepmind keys?