Sounds like a midi loopback loop. It would have constantly spiraled until it overloaded with data and crashed.
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Nope. No external midi was even connected to it. Just changing Clock Sync from internal to Midi In and Arp no longer works. It would just freeze the whole synth completely the moment you Arm it.
Unless you mean a bug in firmware that causes an internal midi loop that freezes the whole unit. Possible I guess.
That specifically is not in the manual. I picked it up from watching videos with Glen Darcey. So take a look at this one, i’ve queued it to the right place:
I got the expression “additive arpeggiation” from one of the videos with Glen Darcey.
Would someone who owns the HSD, please verify for me that this is how it works on the HSD. The manual says that outside the extra physical controls on the HSK front panel, that the Arpeggiator is the same with both the HSK and the HSD. I want to confirm that the “additive arpeggiation” feature works on the HSD as well.
I’ve never played with an HSD, though i am extremely tempted to put one together with my HSK.
EDITED: Change a word to clarify what i wrote in the second to last paragraph.
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Confirmed on desktop. It works if you have one finger always holding a note - so you can’t add further notes in real-time after you’ve removed fingers.
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Good ! Glad to hear it. I get a little nervous when i assume that something works on the HSD, just because it works on my HSK. There are just enough differences to trip me up.
As Glen points out in the video once you have entered an arpeggiator ‘sequence’, you can then vary its expression using the Arpeggiator Length parameter. As i note in the post above by carefully entering an arpeggiator sequence and then varying the Length and Mode, which are both destinations for the Mod-Matrix, you can make some interesting variations in the pattern.
Note to ASM: You need to document “additive arpeggiation” in the manual.
How to use Tap Trig – the "One Button Samba"
The “Tap Trig” Mode
There is an alternate use for the “Tap Tempo” button. It can be set up to control the playing of notes in the arpeggiator sequence, instead of having the arpeggiator played from the clock. Then that one button, “Tap Tempo” can be used to control the timing of the start of the next note, with the note being held for as long as you hold the button down. In addition the Arp controls – Mode (Up, Down, Order, Random, etc) and Octave both control the notes played with the “Tap Tempo” button. Even when the Arp Mode is set to Chord or Phrase this works, which is a little unusual, and you can also choose different Phrases (a choice of 64) to play as well. The Arpeggiator Length parameter also works so this allows variations to be created.
Also when in Tap Trig mode, the output CV signal labeled “GATE” is controlled with that same one button. You can also do things with the output CV signal “CLOCK” using the PPS option for clock rate – see the manual for more detail.
To get started first set the Tap Trig Parameter (Arp - page 2 #1) to ON. Then turn the Arpeggiator ON and turn Latch on as well. Then use the Keyboard or Pads to enter an arpeggiator sequence, and remember you can use “additive arpegiation” with this if you want as well.
Here’s an example of “Tap Trig” mode being used in a performance by Dominic Au. Here he is using two Hydrasynths, playing one with his left hand and one with his right. Note the additional control he uses during this performance.
A cool trick on the HSK is to turn on the Theremin. Then you can then “play” a complex interplay with your two fingers doing separate rhythms. (Remember Thermin mode reserves one voice for the Ribbon.) I like to use the Arp Phrase mode, played with the “Tap Tempo” with my left index, and the Theremin Ribbon with my right index. This works beause if you try to use the keyboard to play notes it will destroy the arpeggiator pattern you have entered, but the ribbon doesn’t. And remember you lift your hand from the ribbon and the note ends with Hold OFF. I often set the Expression pedal to control the Theremin volume.
Detail from the manual:
Tap Trig
When Tap Trig is enabled the arpeggiator triggers a note every time [TAP TEMPO] is pressed. This lets you walk through the pattern one note or chord at a time, depending on the Mode and other settings.
Note that Tap Trig sends signals only to the Gate output. The Clock out still runs at the selected clock rate.
ADDED: The “Tap Tempo” button can also be set to be used with the Compressor in the Sidechain Parameter.
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Let’s hope tap trig becomes a mod destination in a future update - then we can control the arp via cv ins - a sad omission currently
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Housecliche (or anyone else reading) –
Do you know what ClkLock (Arp page #2 5) does? It’s missing from the manual, and i discovered it recently and was wondering. I’m about to sit down and experiment.
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Set ClkLock to OFF in the arp to trigger notes off the beat of the clock…think of it like a Quantize Beat. If it is on, when you play a note, it will wait until the next clock to play the note.
I had a few sweet sherries and played with the arp a bit yesterday…
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This is a revelation and may explain why someone further up the thread was struggling to sync the arp from external? It makes sense that in the default state (clock sync off) that your arp will be running free matched to incoming BPM but not quantised so dependent on your own playing/timing…
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When I turned it on briefly, all my arpeggios seemed a step behind so I quickly turned it off again. Interesting maybe but odd.
Generally, there are two ways of syncing arpeggiators. The term I’m used to is ‘key-sync’, value on or off. I think Dave Smith uses Beat-Sync (certainly in the Pro2) and if Beat-Sync is on, this corresponds to key-sync off. 
Elektron arpeggiatos use Key sync on, which is fine when triggered from sequencers but a bit shit when played manually (imho). The Access virus arpeggiator worked in the same way, despite my pleas for them to change it back in the day. The idea was you might want to start your arpeggio off the regular grid but still have it synchronised. Not me but some folks I guess.
Classic arpeggiators - I’m mostly thinking Roland here - did it right by making them exclusively beat-synced. You could never get arpeggios running slightly out with everything else because of loose playing - the keyboard was merely the means of selecting notes for the arpeggiator to grab; it always took playback timing from the clock.
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Hmm sounds like ClkLock isn’t really working then? Will give it a try later
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Is it possible to lock arp settings when you move between presets in HSD? Like DSI Pro 2 has sequencer lock
No, sorry.
You can set it to keep tempo, This would be nice to have.
In the latest Sonic Talk #612 during the introduction, Charles Chicky Reeves talks about how much he is loving his new HSK.
At the end of the show, he announced that he is planning to make some tutorial videos on patch design with the Hydrasynth. Not sure when, next week or so maybe. His youtube link is here.
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I have the Hydra on its way. I am just curious about something. Is it possible to hold the output of an LFO when a note is triggered? Just like on the Elektron boxes when you set it to “hold”.?
I think i understand your question. I’d suggest try choosing S&H for the “Wave” parameter on (LFO, page 1 #1). I would suggest reading the manual about that setting, -but- there is no further explanation in the manual.
Weird option: Something i had not considered before but thinking about your question it occured to me. For a non-oscillating LFO it’s possible to select a single set value, using Step for that same parameter, setting step length to 2, and setting both values to the same amount. Not sure if this ever is useful but you can do it. (A moment later: Thinking about this some i definitely can see ways i’d use this. Time to experiment ! ) Tons of things are possible with the HS, if you approach things creatively.
Which HS are you getting? I’d love to read your reactions when it arrives.
Thnx for the tips. Yes the Manual is a bit vague about the Sample & Hold LFO. So have to try it out. Would love to “hold” function as on the Elektron. That gives so much “randomness” but less chaotic.
I get the Desktop version. Not a keyplayer so doesn’t need the Keys.
Yeah I will share my knowledge. Now wait. During the corona delivery is a bit uncertain.
Yeah the poly-aftertouch pads are nice on the desktop, and you have the multiple options for how notes they get laid out on the HSD.
I’ll point out to everyone who is in process of choosing, the differences between the Desktop and the Key versions. Obviously the HSK also has the ribbon controller, with it’s various modes.
But what gets missed, that is only on the HSK, is “Chord Mode”. This is distinct from the arpeggiator “sequence” and in fact can be used in combination with arpeggiator, so that you arpeggiate chords. I especially like using “Chord Mode” (with or without the arpeggiator) with a key and scale defined in the Voice section.
And of course the six control knobs – though you can get to all those controls in other ways too.
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