MS is the source here.
OT only used for looping and transitions.
It’s only a toy if you don’t take it seriously.
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Off-topic question: what stand did you use for Model:Samples?
Raindesign mstand
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I quite like those chords in the 1st track. Reminds me of the stuff ‘Traumer’ has released 
I love what you did here. Sounds like a dark techno industrial vibe. Question how are you using the midi fighter? Is it controlling a DAW or…
Thanks for the responses
Everytime I use it for a jam, I later want to edit it in Ableton or export to fix something here and there; and I get stuck.
Yes, I actually use it too as a crazy hi-hat machine;
I was just wondering if there will be ever an update
Great video from Adam Jay as always
As for an update imho: who knows?!?! They gave the Digitakt a crazy update. If they were going to give us six tracks of recording over USB it would make the most sense to make it OB compatible. Personally, I have zero clue whether that is even possible.
I’m having trouble imagining what else they could cram in given what buttons are there and what the OS already does. Maybe a second LFO or something?
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It’s controlling EQs and levels (of live input from MS, and loop/flex track of MS recording) on the OT .
I wouldn’t count on multitrack audio out of the MS ever.
It’s a costly feature to maintain, so no wonder it is found on the more costly Rytm or Digitakt (OT can’t have it due to completely different USB implementation).
But focus on sample selection, and use the filters when you can. Consider a master reverb (high pass filtered, low mix) to add some density to the mix. Compression helps too.
M:S can get the job done with only the stereo output. Same way OP-1, SP-404, and countless other boxes do. Of course it can’t resample, but there’s always a way to bend it to your will.
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This thread inspired me to fire up the Model:Samples and try incorporating it into my Ableton workflow. I’ve tried this before. I just end up recording each part separately, one at a time. It really doesn’t make use of the power of the Elektron. The other method I’ve tried is to simply jam on the M;S while recording it into Live, for use later. I suppose if you’re happy with the sound straight out of the stereo outputs this is OK.
In the end I just mentally separate Live for producing a finished track and the M:S for performing something live.
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MS and MC really need a second lfo
It would open up many new possibilities
I am not sure what Is the Elektron plan on these 2 products
They seem so far from the other Elektron machines but yet very powerful
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One thing you could do is to record it in 3 different takes.
1st - The whole thing while jamming.
2nd - One part at a time, starting with the kick and bassy sounds. Then play it back from your daw while you jam and record in the next parts one at a time.
3rd - Record every single track one by one as they are with no changes.
Treat it all as sketches that you put together and finish in the daw.
A last option would be to go 3 tracks out of each of the 2 mono outs. Don’t know if M:S has that option over USB, but if you have an interface, you could do it.
Obviously you’ll loose the stereo fx and panning. Personally I’d prefer it that way anyways. Easier to edit and process further like that. And I also find the Reverb on the modern machines a little too clean, so I don’t really use them. Can never really find a setting that I really like. I find EHX Cathedral more viby. However, I do set the damping on that to around 10-11 o’clock, and I mainly just use the plate setting. Fits well with the darker sounding Vermona VSR3 that I also have. I brighten that one up with the tone control though.
The delay is cool though with it’s filter, and also I prefer clearer sounding delays for dubmixing, to sit on the top of the audio, and not take up too much space in the mids
Actually using an ext. Reverb at least could make your sounds a little less “Elektron sounding”, if that’s sometimes you care for
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Agreed. A second LFO would mean a lot. I still love the M:S though. It really reminds me of the old Electribes.
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I’ve had my M:S for about a year now, the “record one track at a time” workflow yields best results for me. I usually sync it with Ableton to make it a little easier. I find it works really well to get the basis of an idea down and then I edit/manipulate/sequence it in the box. Anyway here’s an example of a published production where I’ve used the M:S that I think turned out alright.
The drums at the start (and throughout) are M:S tracked in as one stereo recording. I wish I’d multitracked it, the kick ended up being way too loud which caused problems when mixing and trying to match the levels to the B-side.
Edit: my first post, mucked up the embed links
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Having the ability to separately record each of the 6 tracks would definitely help with incorporating into my usual Ableon Live workflow. I suppose it depends on how wild you get with your performance.
What I’m trying to do is sync the M:S to Live, band start building the non-drum machine parts first, maybe just using a kick. Next I can add more drum parts as they suit the synth parts. Then once I have a basic arrangement I can record a M:S performance while the arrangement is playing. Still doesn’t address the desire to have multiple drum channels, but it is what it is.
I know that @SIM80 said he used the M:S and M:C in this release.
which is a tremendous record that I highly recommend checking out. but maybe he can chime in on how he worked with those two machines in writing it.
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I have a DT, and of course it has OB, but I don’t feel motivated to work like that, since it’s a lot more steps to take, and my brain don’t seem to like that.
So I just ordered a 2nd hand M:S to gain 2 more outs, but also because I have long wanted it for something light and portable to take with me to my friends atelier and for when I go to my family at Christmas and such.
In other words, you could maybe get a 2nd M:S (or DT) if money is no problem. 2nd hand might be an option.
I myself do prefer having just one Elektron. But it just seems significantly more practical for me personally to add the M:S. But let’s see how I like it 
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Thanks man! I used both MS and MC mostly as couch based sketch machines when I didn’t have a ton of time. I’d write little percussion pieces on them and then sample them to chop up later. I feel like these boxes are great for quick sessions like that.
May have been mentioned but check out some of the @AdamJay stuff that he did on Model Samples. So good!
Edit: Ha he posted this already. But still amazing so enjoy it again!
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cheers,
My next EP on Re Define Records will be out in January and all 4 tracks were primarily M:S. Two had a little help from OT. I’ll update here when the promo begins.
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Will listen for sure. Thanks for sharing 
Well I forgot about this.
All 4 tracks from this EP were M:S tracks:
Also, this vinyl will come out tomorrow, with both Joel Mull and Noncompliant remixes:
All sounds on the title track are from the M:S (and so the remixes based on those sounds), and actually taken from the audio recording in the youtube video of my March 2020, and edited (cuts and looping for intro/outro) for release.
The B2 track was all OT MK2.
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