Analog Four/Keys OS 1.51: bug reports

Today my A4 mkii crashed and totally freezed. What a shame… :sob:

Here’s what I consider a bug that has to do with the new “page loop” feature (awesome!!) that got introduced with 1.55

What happens with page loop, when a track has e.g. 23 steps (master length set to INF) is the following:

  • Normal playback: 1…23 repeat

  • Page loop page 1: 1…16 1…7 repeat

  • Page loop page 2: 17…23 17…23 17…23 17…18 repeat

Interesting, but not exactly looping each page individually in that scenario.

My expectation would be, that a seamless looping of the active steps on the respective page(s) would be possible. In this case: Page 1 = 1…16 / Page 2 = 17…23 – what do you think?

It’s been reported to Elektron few days ago and I am waiting for their response. It might also be that this is considered as expected behaviour. I’ll post again, once support reacted.

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I’ve got a track with 4 trigs on the sequencer that all have note slides.

If I unmute after pressing play the track doesnt play again unless I restart transport OR remove one of the note slide trigs…

I’ve replicated it on a couple of kits/tracks and with different presets, in most cases if all the trigs on the track have note slides then it does not unmute unless transport is restarted or I remove one of the slide trigs.

this seems like a bug to me. can anyone else replicate?

Got a reply from support wrt to page loop behaviour. Seems they tried to implement it in a different way, but faced some issues. Here’s what they said…

Page loop selects which pages of a track you hear, but the track still counts through all of its steps. When the track reaches its end, or the master length if that is set to a specific value, the page loop starts over with it. That means a loop only repeats cleanly if it fits evenly into the track length. This keeps the track in time with the other tracks when you switch pages or turn page loop off.

@Watto
Just tried to replicate it. Unmuting after play works. Muting and unmuting during play works. Are you on A4 MK1, 2 or AK?

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mk2, I think its about note length, turn that up so all notes overlap and try again if you can?

ps thankyou!

Tried note length short and overlapping. I see what you mean now.
The reason why this happens is related to the AMP Envelope behaviour. Once it has reached its lowest point (aka zero volume) with all notes overlapping there’s no reset/retriggering happening unless you hit stop twice. Most likely you also run into a situation during play of the sequence when there’s no output from that track anymore?
One could possibly argue this is strange the way it works but I doubt it’s a bug.

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Thanks for taking the time to replicate it! I really do appreciate it.

I ran the sequence for 10 mins and didn’t find your hypothesis that there would be no output from the track eventually to be true. maybe it would if i ran it for 11 minutes. I’m not sure I understand your notion of the amp stage reaching a zero volume/lowest point… setting the amp envelope shape to one that retriggers each time(eg shape 3) should retrigger the amp envelope… but thats not happening.

I think it may well be that the command to slide is delivered out of order, and given that the track was muted and has no value to slide from it fails at that point. But from pressing play the first note does slide, so perhaps its an issue with cacheing the note to slide from is not taking place properly from a muted state… hopefully someone at elektron can figure it out and fix it.

I’m going to report it as a bug because if a sequence plays, then you mute and unmute the track and it doesnt start playing again well… thats unexpected behaviour.

DM me a project-file. I can have a look, if you like!

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thanks for the offer mate, I’ll leave this to elektron to figure out. I’ve made my bug report so now I’ll just try to move on and keep making some music.

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Good luck!

Btw. Something quite similar in this very old thread. I thought it might be related…

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