I love how holding function and turning a knob affects the corresponding knobs of every machine. That is so much fun. Wish Rytm did that…
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Thanks Tokin. Will look into that.
I had not discovered that yet Beef. Nice one.
I can not complain. If I had of purchased the MD instead of the Rytm and found they discounted the MD shortly after I would have been pissed off.
It is good they are not the same machine. It would be a little bit boring otherwise.
You want differences in your gear. It’s what makes each piece unique.
Put it this way, I played a set last weekend with a setup I’d never used before, and all sorts of things went wrong.
…but that MD carried the whole thing and made it all ok. Truly an improvised set and sounded great and the crowd loved it. The best part is when I did have moments to breathe, I could reel the MD back in and get it doing what I intended in the first place.
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I got the MD UW+ MK2 and it is the center of my setup. Meanwhile i do don’t start my A4 because the synthesis of the MD is really good as well. I can do so much with the GND machines. With 1 or 2 MID-machines i sequence external gear or just sample voices and manipulate them internally. Now it is my one in all machine to do everything. Especially when finished a set and then tweaking with the CTRL-machines. It is all i need. It sounds so goood and makes sooo much fun. I love my MD and i am happy i decided to go for it and not Rytm.
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I actually fell in love with the RYTM when I started using it as a sampler/tracker. I loaded it up with some very nice, old school 90s tracker kind of samples and there’s just that special ‘something’ when I put mediocre samples into it. For some reason, a great sample sounds duller in it, but an OK, mediocre sample shines in it. It gives this roundness to the sounds you put into it, and that’s before filtering or overdriving. Just the amp itself, idk.
I do admit that when using only internal synthesis, it can get a little muddy because the sounds are extremely warm… a nice touch would have been to have added a HPF to every channel/lane. Because if I decide I want to use the LPF, I lose the chance to highpass it. I’ve made some very clean mixes using only the internal synthesis engines, but it just felt too weighted sometimes.
I don’t want anyone to assume that I am just playing samples on the RYTM like I could be doing in my DAW… it’s not the same actually. There is a tonal change (a VERY substantial one) that happens when you input samples into it. It’s like putting them into an old-school sampler. I love it.
I haven’t gotten my MD yet, but I know it’s going to be great. It’s a legend! I decided against the UW version because I have the RYTM, whose sample capabilities seem to far supersede those of the MD UW. When I get into a silver Elektron box (like my MnM) I just want to focus on internal synthesis, not samples!
Anyone think that’s a mistake?
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I personally really like the sample implementation in the MDUW.
it’s very close to what you describe with the Rytm in terms of oldschool vibe.
with the UW, you actually would have a sample recorder for your Rytm. You could sample on the fly (for example the Rytm itself), and send the samples back to the Rytm via MIDI straight from the MD.
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Exactly like this ^
… and sorry if this is repetitive… but, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtxX0VEpMSI
Rytm is, by now, a lion in a cage!
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I have both, I love both if it came down to it Id probably keep the RYTM if one had to go.
The main reasons I prefer the RYTM are:
- Find it easier to get the kinds of sounds I like out of the RYTM.
- Chromatic mode
- PERF on the RYTM is better than anything else out there in the hardware world for jamming and mashing stuff up on the fly IMHO.
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Boy do I wish the RYTM could do this…!
Yeah, it’s definitely a plus to be able to. Not to mention that the 12-bit conversion adds a very old-school vibe to the sound (on the MD UW).
I’ll just have to see how intuitive and deep the MD can go without sampling! 
you did that?
Record the AR into the MD, then send that sample, via Midi from the MD into the AR ?
no because I don’t have an MD 
but it should work. The MDUW can send samples just like c6 can.
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WHAT!!! Thats an eyeopener… I dont have an Machinedrum, I bought the monomachine the day that it went on sale… Doubted to get the MDUW as well… Didnt do it because I have the RYTM. But this would make me want one…
I love my rytm, I would not trade it for a MD. I’ve had once a MD without the UW and I hated it, and I loved it. Decided to sell it never looked back. Since I’ve got the monomachine I am secretly hoping to get a MD someday, with the knoweledge of the elektron silver boxes now…
someone should better test & confirm that this actually does work, before folks buying MDUWs just for this
but I just tried to send a small file with c6 to Rytm, with “extended SDS” disabled and it transferred normally. it’s a standard protocol, and the MDUW uses it. what didn’t work was the filename. the file was just named “0”.
so yeah I believe it will be fine.
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I asked Elektron… immediately got an answer!
can the MD send a sample via Midi to the AR ?
Elektron Support | April 19, 2016 11:08:10 AM
Hi there, Yes it can. Regards, Fred
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MDUW - the 1000$ Rytm sampling extension 
so if anyone is up to this - I guess it would be best to do it in closed-loop mode, with two MIDI cables connected between the ins/outs of both devices respectively. Then in both machines’ MIDI Config, verify that Turbo-MIDI is enabled. That way the transfer should be reasonably fast. Otherwise it will probably send with normal MIDI speed i.e. with 1/10 of the potential speed.
I’d love to see a video of it!
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WHAT!!! Thats an eyeopener…
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In theory, any sampler that supports the MIDI Sample Dump Standard should be able to act as a sampling front end for the Analog Rytm.
In this thread, forum member @darenager describes using a Yamaha SU10 for that purpose.
Seriously, will someone get this man a MDUW???
Seriously, will someone get this man a MDUW???[/quote]
Seriously!!! LOL
I actually love both units equally. One is more of a surgical tool the other one is more of a paint brush. My only gripe about rytm is the lack of midi control for other stuff but it is clearly not stopping me from loving it .
Aaaaaaand now that I know I can resample and send back over to rytm in a manner of seconds this just got reeeeeealllly freaking awesome. Though I guess I shouldve known this.
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Today i have this machine back on today after a long while.Just so good. Digital never sounded so good.
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MDUW was my first piece of gear and remains the center of my setup. Every time I sit down to play with it, I learn something super cool and make ridiculous sounds.
Just a phenomenal piece of kit, no doubt.
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