AKAI Force

Hey how do you record them all into the force?
It doesnt support audio over USB. Are you routing everything via an interface into the Force?
Really wish I could record the Digitakt over USB since I’m out of slots now :frowning:

My Digitakt’s audio outs go into the Force’s in’s.
The Digitakt audio (both internal and external) is going in and out of the iPad for FX etc.
The BlackBox outs go into the Digitakt in’s.
The BlueBox outs go into the BlackBox.
The BlueBox is used as a sub-mixer.
The Digitone Keys, a Zoom multi effects guitar pedal for guitar and bass (not pictured), and MicroFreak go into the BlueBox. That leaves 3 stereo or 6 mono inputs left on the BlueBox.
I hook up other gear intermittently to the sub-mixer as need. (Another iPad, other synths, groove boxes etc)

This means everything other than the Force is routed through the FX of the iPad and can be sampled into the Digitakt or Force.
The BlackBox can be sampled into the iPad, Digitakt, and Force.
Everything before the BlackBox can be sampled and/or looped in all four places - BlackBox, iPad, Digitakt, and Force.
The second pair of Force outs are fed back into the sub-mixer, so anything in the Force can be fed back into the sampling and FX loop.
Everything is synced either by midi, usb midi, or Link.

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Thanks for the writeup. You know your stuff!
I guess it’s inevitable that I have to get a mixer sometime soon if I keep my setup like this. The OT filled that spot for a good while.

My force ins are now occupied by my interface outs so I can easily sample Ableton and YouTube etc.

The Typhon Just got an audio over USB update so I should be able to route that into the force via USB when the force gets that update, same for digitakt. Didn’t work yet. Then I’d be able to route My dx7 into the digitakt and boom, everything’s in the force much like it would be in Ableton, with the force inputs free for Ableton as a sample source or for sends!

(Do correct me if I’m wrong tho)

If the Force gets the update, I will most likely switch it around so my Digitone Keys or Digitakt is usb into the Force, then the other stuff behind it. Looking forward to the update!
I also have a Behringer usb mixer I could use as well.

Yeah a XENYX USB mixer is only 30/50 bucks and opens up a lot of options. If the digitakt into the force works well… Jeez what an options would you have.

On the mpc live, audio over usb does not work with the Digis as they run at 48k only. I don’t think it will be different on the Force.

Ah shit… No workaround? Well at least the Typhon can be routed into the force over USB.

There’s Elektron just trying to be difficult again.

anyone using the Force with either a Digitakt or Rytm?
My current workflow;

  • DX7iiFD into Digitakt for reverb and then Digitakt into Force.
  • When sampling into an audio clip I have to mute the Digitakt or the DX

I can imagine there’s a better workflow that integrates the Digitakt via Clips / patterns?

I’m sure there’s a way to assign the input in the Force (to ‘Auto’ maybe) where it will only monitor your input (Digitakt) when in record mode… when you stop recording it should switch to the clip audio.

If you want to be able to monitor the Digitakt freely, you could use the Force crossfader. Give the Digitakt a dedicated input channel that’s always ON/IN and assign it to ‘A’ on the crossfader. Then make everything else on ‘B’.

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Yes I use my Digitakt, running as a sound card in and out of an IPad, then into my Force as a permanent setup. I love the combo. The crossfader idea is great. I setup an audio track to record whatever is coming from or through the Digitakt. If you don’t want to waste an audio track, you can turn on monitoring on the looper page to be able to hear the Digitakt and other gear.
In the Digitakt forum here, someone was asking about my VESA mounts so I made him a little video. Here is the video which shows the Force in action on the arms incase anyone is interested…

VESA Arm In Action Video

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nice! Very cool; especially for the Force this is a great solution since it takes up quite abit of space.
The typhon USB Audio update is great and the moment the Force gets the new update it’ll save enough Outs for me to route my entire setup incl. mic into the force via my focusrite.

So far having a lot of fun feeding the OT with the usual nonsense and arranging it with the force, think I’ll be keeping both after all :joy:

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I bought a stylus which helps with the touch screen.
One thing I find is that with my Digitakt, making crazy drums is super easy and feels so natural; just by pitching, triglocks and LFO’s etc. with the force (had the same with the push 2) I am not capable enough yet to make unique drum loops. Are there any tips for the force specifically?

LFO’s for panning and velocity etc. can add some movement.

Layering samples and having them respond to different input velocities is a great way to add life as well. (Vary the pitch slightly, add/subtract distortion, increase/decrease reverb, decay, delay etc)

With 64 available slots just on the first page of a drum kit, and multiple pages available, you can literally copy>Paste>adjust tons of slight or not-so-slight variations of your main drum hits to add in spice. Then sequence those with your Digitakt’s trig locks and go to town.

I very often come up with a main drum beat with my Digitakt and then use a drum program or two on my Force to augment it with other drum and percussion sounds.

Sample a particularly wild Digitakt session of drums, then chop that up in Your force to create new kits.

Spend some time sampling a world radio app and chop it up to make new drum kits, FX kits, Foley-ambient kits etc…

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There is a Reddit that was active, but the owner has not approved posts for over a year and they are not responding to requests to transfer it to an active admin.

FWIW - there is a new subreddit, it’s quiet but not completely dead:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Akai_Force/

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The facebook page is not too bad

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I’ve noticed a pretty big price increase here in NL. It jumped from 975 to 1100 EUR. Could hint at an update soon.

I still have mine up for sale since Im going back to Ableton. Aside from 1 guy wanting to trade for an MPC one there’s no interest at all.

I got mildly hopeful when I saw there were four new posts in this thread… 3.0.7 has been referenced in Akai’s documentation since the MPC update in July. Ah, well, maybe tomorrow.

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