I’ve tried both the Behringer TD-3 and Roland T-8. Both work really well.
Yes. I have it sending audio to Logic Pro on an iPad over USB C.
Hi again. 10 days into this magic device! This could become a great marriage!
Hope you enjoy this edit of the massive tune from Three Drives On a Vinyl - Greece 2000.
https://youtu.be/0TyUBlamxng?si=OQFu2D9yLlQJ6IJb
Cheers!
Cool
I assume it’s an iPad pro?
Would this also work with a normal iPad?
Yes. iPad Pro. Also works on iPad mini 6 through USB C.
If it has USB-C then yes. If it’s Lightning, still yes, but you’ll need an adapter.
damn bro all I wanted was a pepsi and some panning, I can’t get no panning?
well whatever it is, it is what it is… You might not know or care but, there was no panning in the IOS app Samplr either, and the wonderfully talented Dev Marcos said no… but I think after 5 years of Us talking about it he changed his mind and I remember the message like a ray of sunlight on a sunday morning!
the Move might not have panning now but it’s reasonable to look forward to the possibility.
Personally I think out of the features that you listed, at least panning and proper choke groups should be considered as part of a basic standard for anyone coming out with a sampler period imho… all the fx under the sun would be nice but of course things like that shouldn’t be considered as the basic standard…
but let me play devils advocate to devils advocate… in my opinion it sounds like alot of people don’t respect the notion of having a basic standard for samplers like this in the way that they do for bare bone synths… What I’m wondering is this, since everybody has their own opinion on these things how would we go about defining what a samplers basic standards should look like?
your definition of what the device is for and how it should be used as a quickie to get things over and into ableton makes sense to me but what doesn’t make sense is this… isn’t the Note app supposed to fit your description of the Move’s device use case… I thought the Note app was supposed to be the way station to ableton live , and if the Move is based on the Note app isn’t it overly limited cause I don’t have the Note app but everybody says it can do far more than the Move… if I’m mistaken then…
but if that is correct then how does that make sense?
So it sounds like he’s talking about some MPC specific stuff? I’ve never used an MPC. Sounds like you’re saying that by “layering” he means that you can chain two pads together so when you hit one they both trigger? Personally I would never use something like that.
Not trying to be argumentative either, just pointing out that there are different approaches. If I wanted to layer two kicks I wouldn’t want to give up the flexibility of letting them have different patterns. For example one might not trigger on certain ghost notes so it’s more of an accent layer. But if I did want the two patterns to be the same I would just play both pads at the same time as I record it in.
You see what I mean? It just seems like a weird gripe from the point of view of someone who has never worked that way. If he likes the mpc workflow, just keep using that. I’ve looked into it before and it seemed to have way too many limitations for me personally how I like to work. It would be like coming from an Ableton workflow and then getting an mpc and complaining that I can’t just play and hit capture after the fact.
I guess I just don’t understand the use of choke groups. I’ve never used them. I get that it’s meant to mimic a hi-hat and I can see how that could be useful for other instruments if you have a sample of it ringing out and a sample of it being muted or playing staccato. It’s just never come up for me. You can always just play with the hold or release time until it sounds right.
Also no track volume automation sucks. I get that you’re not supposed to mix an entire song on here but for me those things are also just basic arrangement tools.
Yes, but I don’t have iPhone/iPad and don’t plan on getting one
yeah I get that the move doesn’t have the ‘padlink layering’ feature… but volume, panning, proper choke doesn’t sound like something that makes sense to make excuses for…
also if it samples there should be some chopping, not all of the chopping features in an mpc or a maschine of course, but if you’re going to implement Lazy chop, then why not implement the chopping features that are more basic and useful than Lazy Chop… Lazy Chop is a nice feature but I would never call it a basic standard, and it is not the utility type chopping that is used by most people on sample slicing instruments… actually Lazy Chop is an higher tier extra feature and the fact that they’ve included it only encourages folks expecting the basic slicing feature that is far less special than Lazy Chop, you have to skip alot to get to Lazy Chop… I agree with most of Area_808’s description of the instrument and I would not expect Lazy Chop to be on this device, and yet it is.
and if this is the majority take on the definition of the Move, then I would ask all of you Move users who also use Note how do you reconcile the huge contrast between the capabilities of the two, because I thought that was the definition of the Note App…
Fair enough, only workaround I have that would let you keep the one project unfortunately 🫤
That was pretty great actually, and very impressive coming out of just the one device with 4 tracks
I understand where you’re coming from… you know what I think that there is too much tension surrounding sampler instruments so we end up not talking about them enough and don’t feel comfortable in sampler conversations lol… so people who come from ableton only, MPCs,only Maschine only, Elektron only, FL only, logic only get together and talk about sampler features and it’s always awkward… and therefore no openly spoken conscious consensus on what ‘Sampler Basic Standards’ should be, Unlike talking about synth features…Hopefully one day we’ll be able to come out of the shadows and discuss sampling beat machines comfortably out in polite society
and until then lets just try to give each other the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah to me, I think Ableton’s sampling has always come from more of a “sampler keyboard” point of view and less of an mpc style “sample records and chop up breakbeats” kind of angle. And from that point of view I think it all makes sense.
First they had simpler where you just drag in an audio clip and you can play it across the keyboard. On Move one of the 4 included instruments is a keyboard style sampler where you can sample and play things polyphonically. All of the included drum racks if I’m not mistaken are drum kits made of one shots. Basically a drum machine. There aren’t loops or things that you’re meant to chop up and slice.
If you’re sampling records and chopping them up to make boom bap beats you’re probably already using an MPC. Akai owns that market and I don’t think that’s who Ableton is going after. They’re going after people like me who use Live and have never used an mpc or made that kind of music.
It’s kind of like a little mini, modern workstation even though that’s a dirty word these days. In a lot of ways it’s deliberately simple like an OP1 but a lot less limited, more flexible, more down to earth and functional, and a lot cheaper.
well they did give the Move 16 Levels, and Lazy Chop mode though?
that would be a clear indication of something I’d think
also I’ve been using live since before it was first released, there’s quite alot of boombap coming out of live for many many years
how close to the capability of the Note app, do you expect the Move to get in your opinion?
As someone who doesn’t do chopping, lazy chop certainly seems like the easiest way to do it, and Ableton has always been about going for the simplest, most elegant, most user-friendly solution and then basically forcing you do to things their way.
Not saying you can’t make hip hop with Live, just saying that I don’t think Ableton is trying to dethrone the MPC, I think this is something very different.
Never used it and probably never will. I bought it and tried it for a few minutes when Move was announced.