Just browsing for sounds and samples from the stock library takes forever on P3S, nevermind if you have a lot of packs installed too. Since getting Move I’ve barely touched my Push. 
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Is their no Favorites feature on PSA3?
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Sure. Or you can build templates specifically for use on P3SA, to get you started.
It’s just not as fun as Move 
I’m the opposite. I’ve had a P3SA since launch and got the Move at launch as well.
Move got me to use my P3SA more. Browsing presets can feel like a chore, though there’s way more of them by default. And it’s been updated to be easier at browsing them with filters now.
The big thing is just having a full Ableton in hardware without any limits on track size. Full use of simpler and all the synth engines have like 95% of their features fully adjustable and the newer ones (wavetable, drift, macro) all have very slick interfaces.
It’s just a more complete experience. Move is really great but I keep feeling like I’m hitting walls as far as what I’d like to do with it. I’ve yet to max out the CPU on the Push 3 while using well above 8 tracks.
To each their own of course, but being limited to two synth engines of the many that Ableton makes and 4 tracks, even you can extend that usage with drums racks, does get tiring when I have access to a better version of all this.
The only two things I see the Move having over the Push 3 SA is portability and immediacy. Though the immediacy comes at the price of control and flexibility.
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I’d say more so that they’re different kinds of fun for different kinds of things. Move is straight to the point, no fat, no (over) complications. On the other hand on Push you can do basically anything you want, it just takes a bit of thinking and practice to get there. While I find Move super playable, which is one of the things I like about it, it doesn’t really compare to Push as an instrument - I do find only having four rows of pads a bit frustrating sometimes:
Equally, sometimes I want to go nuts with generative sequencing and just jam out without really caring about end product. For that kind of fun, Push is the better option. But for getting an idea down quickly, it’s gonna be Move every time.
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I have move and push3, I got both at launch.
Here is my take:
Move is definitely faster to get Simple ideas going and I wish some of the features like direct sampling to a pad, random sound selection, 16 pitches (this one is coming soon and is in beta) on drum rack, etc.
However, the push3 takes longer, because it does soooo much more.
IMO, the move is incredibly crippled compared to push 3. and once you set up templates, macros, & have your favorite sounds organized in the push, it can become very fast and much less frustrating than the limitations that you get on Move. Not to mention max for live and the ability to have things like MonoMono Mono One and Fors Dyad in standalone is just incredible.
I like them both, but move feels more like a quick sketch pad, rather than Push 3, which has the power of Ableton live and also Max for live at your fingertips.
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I love Move, but Controlling Live with it frustrated me. Has me looking at P3. I think I will use Move as a sketchpad as well as a Fingerdrumming setup (+ Presonus Atom), and acquire PS3A for the full Ableton experience.
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Heading out on a 1-week trip to Greece today. Last year I brought the Polyend Tracker Mini and had fun with it, but this time I’m choosing to let the Ableton Move stay at home. It’s simply a bit too big and unprotected to go with my carry-on.
So some feedback on its portability:
- I wish it came with a carrying case included like the Tracker Mini, it made it feel far more portable.
- I wish it was a little bit smaller, they could have approached the size of the OP-XY without much sacrifice.
- I still don’t understand why not every portable device like this supports bluetooth audio in 2025. Would have made for a MUCH more portable overall package since I would leave the bulky headphones at home too and just use my bluetooth in-ears.
- Would be nice with some Controller Mode support for Ableton Note. That way I could use bluetooth audio and still enjoy the hardware. (Ignoring for a second that Note is iOS only and I have a Google Pixel phone - I wish they supported Android too.)
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Move Mini!!
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This.
Having bought Tracker Mini recently suddenly Move feels huge.
Although I’m afraid when I’ll eventually get M8, the Mini will appear huge, as well 
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Would it be usable though with Bluetooth audio? I’m very sensitive to latency, so I don’t think it’d work for me personally.
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When used as a standalone, portable device I don’t think the latency is very important. It’s not like you’re finger-druming live in front of an audience?
Personally I don’t care because I don’t have any BT headphones - I’m old-school like that 
Or just old…
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I would guess most people use it this way with Ableton Note, so I don’t really see the difference. The more step sequencing and/or quantization you do, the less latency matters so I guess it depends on how you prefer to record.
Live finger drummers wouldn’t use Bluetooth audio I presume.
BT audio is not usable for anything realtime. Sure, you still could use the step sequencer but i‘m glad they did not throw ressources on this.
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I actually pack an adapter to make my bluetooth headphone wired for when i work with Note and I assume most people do. Even though I agree but I think Bluetooth would have been great for MIDI, so you could actually connect your Move to Note like you could with the OP-Z and it’s app.
They "threw* resources on WiFi already, so BT module would most likely be packed together with it, or add a very small, marginal cost.
Just saying, I couldn’t care less for BT.
For me I want a Push 2, I think Push 3 standalone is just too big and it’s so expensive I’m worried unless it’s on a desk I may damage it. But yeah it has made me want Push 2 just so I can get more hands on control on Ableton as while the Move does an admirable job standalone, working on controller mode is nice but sometimes easier to use mouse in conjunction with it for best experience.
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Note is absolutely horrendous latency wise with BT headphones. The app even says so when starting up and it detects them.
It might have gained a bit more usability with the new midi editor, but trying to play anything in real time is like playing a videogame with massive input delay. 
And because I need to always have a spare set of wired buds and a minijack/lightning adapter on me Note basically never gets used even though it’s great.
I’m definitely more and more interested in Move because I’ve almost completely gone back in the box again. I have a Push 3 controller already, so I’m well into the Ableton ecosystem. It seems to be great as a little inspiration machine for when I’m not ‘committed’ to being in my studio and just want to noodle on some ideas in the garden or something.
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They’re the same size (ok, 3 is very marginally “taller”).
P3SA is obviously much heavier.
I should be more clearer, I meant as a standalone device push3 is just too big and cumbersome, I would need to sit it on a desk for peace of mind. I was talking about Push 2 in context of having more hands control on Ableton, I know its roughly the same size as I owned a 1,2 years ago but doing more stuff and importing it in Move. Has made me want more control in the application than just using the mouse and Move if that makes sense
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