Ableton Move : User Thread

Arghh, everytime when im the flow and creating something nice and cohesive, i need 2 extra tracks next to the current 4.

Really the biggest pitfall of this device. I heard from the videos they send before the release prototype units to producers who also said 4 tracks is enough. It really isnt! Although, for the music im creating.

Other than that, its a really great device.
So question is, how you all dealing with this “limitation”?

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Resampling mate, however, wish they add an option where you can resample loop at x number of bars. But I agree, extra slots would be nice.

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You can also swap in some empty tracks using Note. Combined with a few pads for resampling that might do the trick.

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Resampling kills a bit my flow tbh. I did that a lot on the trackers (m8 and polyend) when creating chords.

Regarding note, thats an interesting one. Will try that one out, bringing it to my iphone and attach the korg nanokey fold.

Thanks! :saluting_face::+1:

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I don’t own Note, so how does it work in conjunction with Move. BTW does it require cloud to get it working as well, because then that’s a nono in certain situations.

It does require the cloud to do this. Whichever are the first 4 tracks of the Note’s 8 tracks are synced to the Move. So you can reorder the set to rotate in those 4 empty tracks as needed.

And then you could delete tracks in Move, create new ones, that will be added as track 1-4 in the same project in note adding up to 8?

But if you’re motivated enough for this, why not just switch to ableton, then…?

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Does this require the move to be connected via type c, or is this wireless. So both devices must be on wifi due to cloud correct.Is there a video demonstrating this per chance?

This happens over the internet. It uses Ableton’s cloud, which is fast.

I often use Ableton Link. It allows for easy synchronization with various gear such as Live, Koala, MPC, and Note, keeping the workflow uninterrupted.

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OK treat me like an idiot, I be using move as my portable travel machine, so if I get Note. All I need to do is need to create Ableton Cloud account, and then login into both machines with those details. I don’t need my desktop running Ableton running same time as well?.

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If you already have an Ableton account, you won’t need a separate login for Cloud — just follow the sign-in steps in Note and Move Manager. It all works regardless of whether desktop Live is running!

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Nice, thought you had to have desktop version running in background

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Resampling is good & all, but then you open the project in Live and you’ve audio file that you can do very little about :frowning:

I agree with @KrisG - Move should’ve had 6 or 8 tracks.

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The logical workflow would be to resample, then move to a new set (or duplicate your current set and delete what you have resampled) and drop your resampling in a drumrack. This way, you still keep all the steps. Then, when you move to Ableton, you just have to stitch the sets together.

I’m much more annoyed by being unable to stay sync while going from set to set.

Otherwise, 4 tracks is fine for me. I gel totally with the “sketch in Move, finish in Live” philosophy. When / if the Move gets a piano-type layout for the pads + 16 velocity levels + mono sampling, I’ll be pretty happy.

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…and then is stops being quick, easy and intuitive.

The amount of cognitive load you have to do for book keeping gets in the way.

Personally, I don’t have problem creating the proverbial 8-bar loop in any DAW and Move is great for that as well. But where I struggle is creating different sections and rough arrangement out of them - and for that I need to have more than 4 tracks. Not a lot more, but 4 is the minimum for the 8-bar loop (if I don’t want to waste time resampling bass & chords to drum rack pads); and 6 to 8 would be decent for a sketch song with intro, verse, chorus & bridge (or their approximation for the music I write).

Don’t get me wrong - Move is the fastest way from idea to actual 8-bar loop for me, but it could’ve been a lot more. I also had P3SA for a bit, but didn’t liked it at all, because it felt like operating full Live with a broomstick through a keyhole. I don’t feel anything like that with Move, but I feel the limitation of 4 tracks all the time.

I literally will create a fun, interesting loop using all 4 tracks and then get paralyzed by fear, because to progress it to a different section I have to:

  • think of if / how I might want to use “excess” 1-2 track(s) going forward
  • program the patterns, automations, variations,
  • resample all of them them
  • program them in the drum rack track
  • backup the set

It’s not so fun anymore :frowning:

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It actually has up to 64 tracks :wink:

It definitely (still) has shortcomings but personally i can live with the track count and i‘m able to do quite complex stuff with it.

But there is this ONE thing that makes everything up for me anyway: Move never feels like“work“ (often enough i‘m looking at my hardware corner and my mood fades away before i even start everything etc).

It‘s the most enjoyable groovebox type of thing i ever had (i had a lot).

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Yes, it is. It still isn’t perfect :wink:

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4 Tracks X 16 Pads filled with samples of your choice.

To me the Move is a 4 Bank SP 404 in a way.

Constrained bliss that fits in a small back pack.
Learn to love the limitations and master the features at our fingertips.

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