Thatās the thing - when Iām thinking āmusic productionā last thing I have on my mind is the phone. Whatever the brand. So I pick the best, or most optimal, phone for āphoneyā stuff and thatās it.
Based on experience with the Push 3, nobody should be counting on updates anytime soon. If this thing doesnāt have a feature you require, do not buy it because thereās no guarantee if or when itāll be added.
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They may have done plenty of research to show itās not worth the money for them. Maybe itās coming but just because other companies have spent the effort and resources to make an app doesnāt mean they need to as well. And we donāt know if those apps have made money to make those worth it. And the OP-Z app and Seqtrak are different as those are companies apps for a piece of hardware so they are definitely more compelled to make that app work on Android if they want their hardware to sell.
Also, I know for OP-Z in particular it took over a year for that app to come to Android and it was buggier for me on my Android phone than on my iOS device. Iām sure not everyone had the same experience as me but I would often have issues with that app, like my OP-Z randomly disconnecting or the app freezing and I didnāt have that issue with my iPad.
But yeah, Iām sure there is very good reason to not put the app on Android. Surely if they felt they were missing out on a mountain of cash theyād pursue that.
Edit: and to be clear Iām not saying they shouldnāt put it on android, just donāt expect music apps to come to Android. If they do thatās great but likely they wonāt. There is a whole world of iOS music making apps that are high quality that arenāt on android. And a whole way of making music between multiple apps that I donāt believe Android has anything close to. Itās just the way it is.
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I never said I donāt think about music production.
I said that when I do, I donāt think about phone.
Will you be keeping your Push 3?
Also, just really learning P3, and Ableton, the switch from Vertical to Horizontal clips seems like it will be disorienting going back and forth.
I think people are making too big of a deal between the horizontal/vertical stuff, they just transposed the matrix in a very sensible way, Iād bet money it will click very quickly for almost everybody
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but was it necessary, I donāt have a Move yetā¦ just thinking why not keep the uniformity of the workflow people have grown to use and love?
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Yes, itās immediately clear to me that it was absolutely necessary. Imagine the pads being oriented in 4 columns of 8 rowsā¦ would not fit as well on a desk or table, would not be as ergonomic. One octave would be two rows instead of one.
Clips go from left to right instead of up and downā¦ the horror!!
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I chuckled out loud when you said the horrorā¦ thanks
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Iām definitely keeping my Push 3 ā despite some complaints, Iāve centred my entire setup around it and Iām using basically every feature it offers. Itās my DAW controller, keyboard controller, audio interface, and MIDI hub. Iāmā¦ very much part of their target market.
I initially thought that the move to horizontal scenes was a bad idea, but itās not too bad in practice and as @rg01a pointed out, itās more important to maintain pad playability than Session View orientation. When they first started teasing Move, I imagined a portrait-oriented device roughly the size of the KO-II. But the landscape orientation they went with is working out nicely so far!
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Thanks mate 
I really do think the switch from vertical to horizontal is a big deal. No, itās not going to melt anyoneās brain or anything horrible.
But itās a weird product design decision, imho, when for the 20+ year history of your product youāve burned the vertical orientation into peopleās memories.
I certainly would not expect 4 columns of 8 rows either though (4 tracks and 8 scenes). I would expect the product as it is, but 8 tracks, 4 scenes, and behavior similar to Push or an APC 40 mkII, and the Live software itself. Need to go down past the first 4 scenes? Then have a down arrow, like Push, APC, etc.
Boggles my mind why they would change horses midstream like this.
But, Iām sure, like you say, it doesnāt take long to get used to. But if they had stuck with vertical - and gone with 8 tracks and 4 scenes, scrolling down for more - I would be a lot happier and would buy one, eventually. Maybe itās just me and I should stick with Push and not worry about Move? Iām fine with that. Just thinking out loud.
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As someone who does not use session view, live has always had vertical tracks, and all of the talk about it makes no sense. 
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so does the Move have parameter locks, or only motion sequencing?
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yeah this would have been appealing
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I am a developer by trade, and Android will not be a music app destination. The APIs available are no where near as extensive as what Apple provides. The APIs make it much easier to build and interface with the hardware on the phone. Android is even more complicated because of the number of devices, and frequently versions of Android can break things like audio over USB on a particular device. And in general developing on Android is clunky, and fragmented.
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I keep hearing it has p-locks, and in a more advanced way than was possible on Push, but have yet to see a demo of it.
People have said it now behaves more like Elektron p-locks, in that a p-lock exists until the next note, rather than the older Push way of a P-lock only existing, at least by default, until the next step. Make sense?
If Move has now has more of an Elektron-style p-lock, I hope they bring it to Push 2 and Push 3 soon.
Edit - sorry I couldnāt answer your question, but Iām very curious about this too. Just chiming in.
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I never understood why any dev would do p. locks any other way (subjective)ā¦
but yeah I read that earlierā¦ huge + if that is the caseā¦ hopefully theyāll get these clips outā¦ just finding out today that no matter how many times you copy a sample that it doesnāt take up any more memory is huge,
what about mono sampling though, havenāt seen anything about that stereo is great but what about mono sampling ?
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Itās still locking automation isnāt it? So you still lose control over the original parameter? In that case it is not really the same at all as a true plocks.
On push you can hold multiple steps and lock parameters to get a similar effect to hold a value until the next note. Not as convenient but it works
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