Ableton Move [Archived]

Will it make my dinner?

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The Move would have to be the master clock. That’s less than ideal. We don’t know how stable the clock is, I bet the DT has a better clock. I would consider getting two Moves and doing a set like that. Sync them via link.

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Good question, I’d imagine you can navigate through all of them when connected to Live, but I guess we will have to see when it shows up.

But how will it work as fully standalone device? How can you write a passable song there? With 4 tracks you can barely do any arrangement, where normally you’d have slightly different sounds in verse, chorus, bridge/break?

It’s a scratchpad for 4 bar, 4 track loops that you take to Live to finish.

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Now I’m getting excited

Like you said earlier you could theoretically have 64 voices with 128 bars per track per set. That’s a lot. I don’t know how seamless changing sets is but if it’s quick enough then you can do quite a bit of production with it.

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Does anyone know if the ā€œfull Ableton integrationā€ as a controller means we can use it to control racks with the knobs via the blue hand? Also if it’s possible to select racks somehow without relying on the mouse?

The Music Radar review mentioned that this isn’t as deep as a Launchpad. But I was thinking. If a Launchpad doesn’t have macros (can only edit parameters on the pads) then this is different to basically all the controllers out there. It’s not a fully fledged Push and there’s the dance between screen and hands. But as I was considering a Beatstep Pro for quick ideas in Drum Racks etc, the idea of using this as a quick ā€œhelperā€ to get going is fun.

Not knocking Push at all, but my workflow seems to be play with a groovebox/sampler, then throw into Live to arrange. This bypasses session view a bit which means Push while still tempting, might only be needed for playing in beats and sample chops. And in that case, this does both of those things pretty well.

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This is why we need Loopop’s video hah. It says in the manual that you can control devices, but there’s not much info showing someone doing it. My assumption is it functions like any other non-Push controller where it automatically has the first device with blue hand by default. We know you can use the jog wheel to move around the racks, but what we don’t know is whether you can control more than 1 bank of parameters.

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I thought about using a different browser. Good call. As it turned out, I quit my browser, reloaded my shopping cart page, went through the payment, and this time it asked me to confirm the zip code for my credit card, and then it worked, and I received confirmation of the transaction via email.

It’s not seamless in any practical sense and you’d have to stitch individual Sets in Live into one project to make it work.

I guess the only passable workflow - for me - would be to use one of the tracks as a scratch pad and resample stuff to Drum Rack on other track(s). That’s the only way I can see making a more complex arrangement, but this way I lose the source of what I resampled. I’m troubled by this.

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When you say use the jog wheel to move around racks, do you mean it will scroll through racks on a track inside Ableton?

As far as changing macro banks inside one rack goes, there’s a workaround in case it doesn’t have that feature, you can nest a 16 macro rack inside another 8 macro rack, mapping 8 of the 16 knobs to the outside rack and then scroll through those two racks with the arrow keys (hopefully the jog wheel does the same)

Yeah that’s what it says in the manual. ā€œUse the wheel to navigate between a track’s devices in Live’s Device View, and press the wheel to unfold or fold Racks.ā€

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That’s pretty neat, even with the midi cc and sync limitations I could see this getting used as a controller for racks I’ve built :slight_smile:

I’m really looking for any excuse to buy this I guess :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Has anyone managed to put Doom on it yet

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yes manually and lazy chop, no transient, threshold, regional, bpm, or auto slicing

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Haha. The Music Radar folks said it wasn’t as good a controller as things like the Novation Launchpad but of course you can’t wander off with Launchpad and make a tune on it (no encoders there either). It’s also more powerful than something like a Circuit Tracks but the Circuit Tracks is pure hell to get tracks off.

Naturally Push will do more, but I think this will suit folks who aren’t sure about the bells & whistles of Push. I worry that Push would be amazing, but then overkill at the same time. I tend to start songs away from the computer and then finish them with a keys and mouse. So at that point does putting Push in there in the middle of the process make sense? But I do very often need something on the desk to do quick parameter adjustments etc in the middle part of making a track, so I am sortof tempted for my current use case. Gonna let it simmer since used P2’s are now pretty good on price.

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Does anyone know if the sequencer can be used in control mode to sequence tracks inside Ableton?

And can it load custom racks made in Ableton so long as those racks comply with the device limitations inside Move?

The Sonic Lab’s video showed an easy transfer of songs between Note and Move but didn’t touch on what happens when your Note song has more than 4 tracks.

Is there anything preventing you from using it purely as a sampler, like the Digitakt? I’m thinking using drum rack all over the four tracks and just recording things either played by hand, sequenced by external sequencer or leaving the fourth track for temporary MIDI sequencing?

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