Ableton Move [Archived]

Amazing, thank you! That pushes the Move into far more appealing territory for me, especially considering it (presumably) handles stereo samples.

Potential use case - send MIDI start/stop and notes from Move to iPad, record four-bar loop audio iPad (all through USB) into a track, then chuck that loop into one of the 16 drum cells on one track.

oh ok, well I love live to death and it’s fx, thought the fx list was a little short though

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Stereo confirmed.

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Some interesting nuggets from the Sonic State video:

-Move and Note are the same codebase so they can be updated at the same time and Move is Arm-based.

  • Push Standalone is getting Ableton cloud support.

-Importing your own presets and drum racks on the horizon.

-About 50gigs of room for your own samples.

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But automatible which is very fun for crazy afx beats

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4 tracks is a deal breaker for me.

I don’t do ā€œbeatsā€ and I’m not big on ā€œsamplingā€, so I don’t really care about utilizing Drum Racks to overcome that limitation and without Elektron’s P-Locks Move would end up - for me - as 4 bars / 4 track idea generator with basic & flat sounds, rudimentary & generic effects and no direction. All it can do is drums, pads, bass and one lead, which just isn’t enough to even start a basic arrangement.

Hoping for P3SA sale at the end of the year.

I was so f**ing wrong to sell mine :frowning:

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  • 16 voices per drum track
  • up to 8 voices per synth track depending on what synth is used as a base for sound
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doesn’t look like it

15.7.1 Sample Parameters in Drum Sampler

The following parameters are available in the Main Bank, starting with the leftmost encoder:

  1. Transpose/Detune — transposes the sample’s pitch up or down by semitones. Hold the Shift button to detune the sample in cents.
  2. Sample Start — adjusts the starting position for the sample’s playback. Hold Shift to adjust in fine increments.
  3. Attack — adjusts how quickly the sample’s sound reaches full volume. Hold Shift to adjust in fine increments.
  4. Hold — determines how long the sample plays back after the pad is pressed. Hold Shift to adjust in fine increments.
  5. Decay/Length - Decay adjusts how quickly the sample becomes silent after the Hold time. Hold Shift to switch to the Length parameter, which can be used to adjust the sample’s length.
  6. Playback Effect — selects the playback effect type used to manipulate the sample. You can choose from nine available playback effects: Stretch, Loop, Pitch Env, Punch, 8-Bit, FM, Ring Mod, Sub Osc, and Noise. Each playback effect type has two unique parameters, which are assigned to encoders 7 and 8.

although it might be possible in Loop mode and the unique parameters

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This is cool

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yep, but there’s a lazy chop /realtime manual chopping as well… it’s not bad, I want far more in depth sampling features but I can deal with any kind of chopping really…

the thing about Sampling and sampling features that I am discovering with all of the sample based beatmachines coming out these days is that imho it seems like Sampling is the most important feature to all of the Devs because it’s the sample based features that they cut corners on, and use most to differentiate between the different products in their line ups… they give you tons of factory sounds and they Give you synths with usually enough features but sampling is like the bathwater they want to throw out at least that is what I used to think… I thought they just hate sample based production or don’t care enough to give it the attention it needs but obviously if sample based features are the one’s they skimp on and want you to only have access to them in their flagship products that means that in reality sample based features are their most valuable features and their features they make most of their money with!!!

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Drum Rack has chromatic playback for each of the 16 slots, like MPC 16 levels (on the right hand 4x4); it’ll be interesting to see how that translates back to Live.
But, that makes it really powerful IMO.

Also, as a Live user, having a controller with a 16 TR style layout is really appealing, I reckon I’d pay for a controller like this on its own.

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I ordered it just as became available. I read the docs and saw the vids later.

I’m not sorry at all. It’s such a polished workflow.

And I’m glad I got many of the features correct.

Told you that you can edit samples with that screen and it’s super usable.

No sample slice but you can easily duplicate pads and edit start point. I can work with that.

A nice thing is you can hit sampling and hit pads and you can live chop this way. It will use the same sample which you can fine tweak later. This is super dope.

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so what was that guy in sonic state talking about getting more drums on the other half of the pads?

So 4 tracks is real, not sure about automation lanes, only premapped devices can be used.

not for me ?

It has a high risk beeing too toyish and if i have to do the sound design anyways in live, why should i transfer that to move? Lets wait for Tonverk.

No arrangement overview, so you would have to remember which pattern does what - nah, i prefer MPC Once 1000x more. Or Octatrack, at least it has 8 tracks.
Also no mention of midi generators , and hence even midi generators only on 4 tracks would not be enough to make me want it. I could launch midi clips from a novation launchpad mini.
Its also not fully MPE supported, only pressure.

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64 gb internal storage! nice. 599 CAD aint bad, fair price IMO

Oof. If that’s true I think this could be very good. Checking the Sonic State demo at the mo…

Two things I cannot find an answer to in the manual.

  1. Can it send midi clock or can it only send midi note data via usb to another device?

  2. Can it use Link via wifi and send midi note data via usb at the same time?

Anyone know?

Edit:

  1. Can the line input be a pass through (monitor input) if you are controlling a synth for example
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No freq shift, resonator, vocoder? That’s sad

Do we have a list of available instruments yet- *edit: found it

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Just open up the Ableton website, there’s a full specs list

Whats lazy chopping? Ive never heard that term before