Ableton Live 12

Is it just me or does the euclidean mode on Meld’s LFO make zero sense? Especially the params.

Steps and pulses both go to 100 with decimals in between - huh? Ok so I guess they’re percentages?

Also for example set rate to 1/16 and steps to 16 and pulses to 100. You can see the waveform display is “every step” - but it skips steps and is not representative of any euclidean pattern I’ve ever heard.

What the hell is going on?

Pardon me if this has already been covered, but a couple UI things I’m wondering about:

Is it still possible to hide send/return tracks in Arrangement view? Seems like something everyone with a widescreen monitor would want to do, but I can’t seem figure out how.

While the filter-based browser is cool and all, it’s super disorienting not being able to see some searches in their full context. For example, when searching for a plugin preset, the results are not grouped with the parent plugin, and there seems to be no way of seeing what plugin a given preset relates to. Am I missing something here?

Other than that, loving Roar and all the Midi improvements like everyone else :slight_smile:

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yes, it’s a hidden menu without keyboard shortcut unfortunately, but it’s under View > Arrangement Track Controls > Return Tracks

not really, you can use the tags to narrow down search for built in tools but for vst/au it’s kinda nightmareish, I too don’t understand why they didn’t do grouping or at least if I search for a plugin give me the presets dropdown in the results, I mean it’s the same window, why the presets are not in the search result??

I reached out to Ableton to see if there was a PDF coming eventually and got a response today. They said currently they are not planning to offer one because they don’t have the resources to maintain both versions. I’m big on printing my manuals so I can read them all the way through, so this is kind of a bummer, but I guess I’ll just have to make do with the web version.

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this is a true bummer, I don’t get it, there’s so many online docs systems that offer pdf render with plugins, it shouldn’t be too much hassle…
a software that offers offline authorization but not offline manual, seems weird to me…

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A kind soul on Reddit did this:

https://reddit.com/r/ableton/comments/1bb8xvt/i_made_an_offline_ableton_12_manual_pdf/

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I added it to my Mac’s dock as a web app. Only works when I’m online, but tbh I’m always online when I’m using Ableton.

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yeah the dock apps are amazing, but, I mean, imagine going somewhere remote to do some music, and you don’t have internet because you want to disconnect, and maybe you need to take a look at the follow actions stuff which I never remember personally, and you can’t… I mean, it’s pretty weird to me… especially considering that it’s not that much effort to just do markdown to pdf, which I assume is the easiest way to do docs nowadays anyway…

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sheesh, reading that comment “bruh who needs a manual in 2024” reminded me why I don’t visit reddit much nowadays…

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Is there a way to automatically merge two mono tracks into a stereo track in Ableton? I am working with a bunch of Tascam 12 recordings where the L and R sides are separate files, and it’s a pain working with them in Live via Linked Tracks (but thank the developers for those at least).

Is there a way to merge them automatically somehow? Or if not in Live, what would be the quickest way to do it in another program?

Using ‘Audio To’ on the mixer, you can combine them into one track and record them as a single audio file.

Look for an audio editor. There’s a good chance some of the free ones will combine R/L into a single stereo track.

I first started using Snapper from Audio Ease when I often worked with ProTools and other people. It’s payware, but a great tool if you’re on Mac and if you prefer to work outside of a DAW, or full-fledged editor: Audio Ease - Snapper - view and edit audio files directly in the Mac Finder

Again, I think there are free options so you don’t likely need to spend for a quick solution.

Edit: Audacity does it (free)
https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/splitting_and_joining_stereo_tracks.html

Just started to use Live Standard for the first time this week. Coming from MPC Software, I find of course a lot of incredible functionalities but also some limitations. I will keep producing mostly in MPC and use Ableton for mixing and final automation. But it’s really not a groundbreaking software I must say. One thing I LOVE in MPC Software is solving problems and finding your own ways to do stuff instead of relying on a “one click” solution or something like that (if you are into that). But I can comfortably say it’s superior to MPC Software when it comes to especially automation and simple tasks like copying, moving, carrying things from one place to another. And of course it has a builtin graphics EQ which is great.

That’s basically how I would describe Ableton. It’s pretty much a modular system. You can solve almost anything using things like audio effects racks / instrument racks etc. Standard is relatively limited (still very capable though). Suite is where the whole thing becomes a playground.

Really curious to hear specific examples of where mpc software is superior :slight_smile:

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Small bugfix update (12.01)

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I will write it up once I get home :grinning:

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–note-- if mods think this is not appropriate place, please delete it. Or let me delete it and put it in a relevant thread.

Since this is an Ableton thread, I don’t want to spam it or write a huge essay here. But I will say that I am a really really good MPC Software user and happy to help anyone. Or if anyone is ever interested in a DAW comparison type of article, I will happily contribute.

I am a first time Ableton user so if some of the things I mention can be done easily in Ableton, feel free to correct me. I will only write 3 things that I love in MPC Software and so far couldn’t see them in Ableton.

  1. The first thing I like is the arrangement of a drum kit or rack. You can either use stock versions or make up your own by dragging anything onto any pad. Here you can individually manipulate each pad (or each instrument like kick, snare, or any other thing you loaded on a pad) in one simple place. FX, EQ, levels, pan, tune etc… You can also layer multiple things on one pad here and trigger them by velocity if you want. I find it very easy and incredibly powerful here.

  2. I like to be able to Mute or Solo a track easily. I think you can do this as “freeze” (?) in Ableton but it’s not the same as far as i can see. For example, you can Solo multiple tracks at a time or mute them (by surprisingly! one click next to your track). The beauty of this is that you don’t have to delete parts or take the velocity down to Zero. Moreover, you can mute/unmute a track like the screenshot 2 I pasted down. (that yellow line is muting/unmuting track). This means you can actually arrange your song while you are working on it without messing up the Midi or Audio track which may be irreversible or very difficult to reverse.

  3. The “keygroup” in MPC Software. This one is where you can literally load any audio (a note, chord, sample, vox whatever) and play it accross the keyboard, layer if you want and do all the EQ, FX etc in one place. I ulpoaded a third screenshot with an extreme example. I layered a D bass note, a clap and another D on top. And you can adjust their individual levels, trigger with different velocities etc and still play accross the keyboard.

Like I said there is probably 10 things I love in MPC Software and perhaps because I am used to it now. But I won’t be surprised if you can do these all in Ableton as well. I just don’t know yet. Looking forward to learning more though. Ableton is absolutely amazing.

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You will find all of those available in Ableton too. Youtube info about building your own Drum Racks for 1. Look into either ctrl/cmd+click on solo buttons (the S button next to the yellow track number) to pick what to solo, or group like tracks (I have melody synth, bass synth, guitar, drums, etc as their own groups essentially giving the multiple things in each group their own bus that can easily ‘roll up’ with a click visually - to group tracks, multi-select and ctrl/cmd+g – can drag later tracks into the group easily - and nesting groups works too) and solo the group to balance levels in the group for 2. For 3, look into MIDI and/or audio FX chaining as search terms.

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Thanks I will check them out!

To add to this, I believe there’s a setting under ‘Options’ (Ctrl/Cmd + ,) for exclusive ‘Arm’ and exclusive ‘Solo’. The default is exclusive meaning you can only arm or solo one track at a time. Disabling exclusive means you can solo or arm any number or tracks. It can be enabled/disabled for each of the above.

Not in front of Ableton but certain this is a setting. On the ‘Record/Launch’ tab IIRC.

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