Ableton Live 11

I really like the mixed view (arranger + clips) in Bitwig and the way it aligns tracks & clips horizontally in that view. Much easier and faster to use than switching between Session view and Arrangement view in Live (mute point if you use two screens…but even then, the horizontal track alignment in split view in Bitwig just clicks with me).

The Bitwig Sampler is also great for sound design, I like it much better than Ableton’s Sampler (but not as easy for traditional sample & chop workflow as Simpler…at least I haven‘t gotten to a similar workflow ease yet).

MPE support obviously beats Live 10 all out, per note FX/modulation is cool too.

The Modulator/Modulation functionality in Bitwig is phenomenal, really good and Ableton doesn‘t have anything as flexible and fast that I know of. I know of the M4L devices (LFO etc) but again, what Bitwig does is on another level.

The Grid is also a lot faster and easier than Max 4 Live, though Max is obviously more powerful and flexible (I‘ve been getting into Max programming/patching lately so I enjoy that for the engineering part, Grid feels more like a modular system - akin to VCV Rack or Reaktor Blocks - than programming, which is nice from a music making point of view).

The browser on Bitwig is SIGNIFICANTLY better than Live‘s browser! Faster, easier to find what I‘m looking for, preview anything almost instantaneously (my Macbook is old lol, hence „almost“ :)).

I like the look of Live better and it has more/better built-in devices.

Audio editing workflow is better in Live for me so far as well.

In general, Bitwig feels like it was built from the ground up into what it is today, no unnecessary weight to it at all.

If there’s anything in particular you’d like to know about, let me know.

6 Likes

I’m digging Live 11, here’s a jam with it

About a minute 30 in it gets spacey.

11 Likes

I’m also getting a real release candidate vibe from these new updates to the beta.

4 Likes

lovely stuff :sparkles:

1 Like

Very cool. Can’t wait to dig into it.
What did you use to create the glitch tech loop? Very nice

1 Like

stoooooooooooooopppppp :laughing:

Tree tone is providing the backing drone, then there are a few midi clips with random follow actions triggering a core 808, I’m also splitting that midi to go into another Drum Rack. In that drum rack I’m using the expression control on the Kick drum, all set to random and mapped to the new spectral effects. I have some vocals time stretched and using follow actions with the hybrid reverb on full blast. The last track is an AFX Station being processed by a Shaper.

Hope this is helpful!

2 Likes

Thanks for sharing ! :slight_smile:

1 Like

I don’t know for you but for me the beta is way more stable than the last version of Live 10. Been over-using it for the last days and never had a single crash.
On my configuration, with Live 10, modulating the modulator of a modulator would sometime end up with a crash, especially when a third party M4L device was included in the chain.
On 11 beta, i’ve been furioulsy modulating the modulator of modulated modulator whith no crash at all ! Very good point !

5 Likes

Finally got invited to participate in the beta. Only signed up a few weeks ago, so hoping others who signed up earlier are in now too.

6 Likes

https://maxforlive.com/library/device/4571/volume-compensator

I think that should have been a build in device - its very helpful with mixing. You could compensate for the used fx and check if it really improves the sound, or just makes it louder. (loud is better :walking_man: or no? )

5 Likes

I signed up today and got in today, so yeah definitely seem to be letting people in more easily :slight_smile:

Dude. so unfair. lol.

1 Like

they just posted b29 as release candidate

4 Likes

is the downloadspeed only for me so low @ centercode? And is anyone else having problems logging in due to Safari not recognizing the fields as loginfields?

1 Like

Been that way for a long time now. Centercode know about it but seemingly don’t care.

3 Likes

Cool! So the only thing that was needed for release was new legal documents. Fun!

1 Like

great… I also like how regular Ableton mailsupport always redirect me to Centercode to make a “feature-request” there … they don’t care as well obviously. … not fun to load the latest beta with 80-100 kb/s and getting kicked out of the current session every 10 minutes and then copy & paste the darn login into those fields again where safari already decided to create a new password. Is it only for Safari?

1 Like

Yup. it’s not toooo bad if you’re on the mac - click the password field and a small key icon appears, click that and choose the email address from the popup. Safari on iOS is just painful though.

2 Likes