3 Years of Brexit… what are your thoughts?

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#353

The Santos phenomenon is a bit more complex than just that.

He didn’t even run a campaign. R’s had no plan to take the seat as it was not competitive. That’s how he made it through the primary. At the time he started his post-primary “campaign”, the district was heavily gerrymandered in the Dems favor. During the campaign, the court threw out the district map. A new map was made that favored the R’s just enough. Dems in the old district got sent into other districts. Dems remaining in the district were woefully unaware, as the political machine there on the state level is a wreck.

In other words, it was a perfect storm.

#354

If Amnesty published one report that billionaires get sad when people criticize them and 99 reports that billionaires are bastards.
Then I know that the Washington Post (owned by Jeff Bezos) would spend weeks covering the one report in detail and never eeven mention the 99.

#355

If perfect storms keep happening with regularity then it may be an indication that the structure of the system is encouraging them.

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#356

I would quite like to know why you feel this?

Edit: I ask, not to start a debate on it, but cos I am genuinely interested in that point of view.

#357

If you suspect your wife is about to divorce you then get sharpish and divorce her first then you can always claim that it was your idea. Saves a lot of embarrassment later on.

No seriously:
If you only have two wheels then don’t try to build a car even if in the ‘hallowed past’ you had loads of wheels. Build a motorcycle instead. But whatever you do, absolutely do not build a three wheeler just because you can officially call it a motorcycle.

No really, seriously…
'Arry Kane… Full English Breakfast… Ingeeeerluuund… Spitfires?

Actually I am not gonna lift a finger to do anything about it one way or the other. I haven’t lived there since the 80’s. All my ties are cut.

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#358

Evelyn Waugh refused to learn how to drive a car.

#359

And quite right too…
The Highway Code has never been published in Latin.

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#360

Really?

#361

Good job they didn’t tell a millennial joke…

#362

I believe the opposite is true:

this chart, and others like it pander to and only convince the very naive who need to find an over-arching narrative with which they can explain the world. Little grains of truth are to be found in it and at particular points in time some of the hierarchies in it function as described. However, there is no narrative.

This chart describes a level of cooperation and competence that human organizations could never achieve.

It may be true that the B.I.S has more power than yu=ou would expect from such a small, obscure entity.

It may be true that central banks have a bit more influence than their technocratic mandates would suggest.

It certainly true that certain rich families or corporations (Rockefellers, Bill Gates, Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Tech) have more lobbying power than what is good for society, though placing the Rockefellers above national governments smells of you-know-what.

But to believe that all these people and organizations put aside their particular vested interests and egos to join in this genius, massive, unprecedented, global and yet secret mechanism by which they control science, media, finance and politics the world over?

To believe in Darth Vader is as naive as believing in Santa.

Going back to Brexit, this theory of the world could anecdotally explain why Brexit happened, but had the vote gone the other way, it would find the anecdotes for that as well because nobody really knows what BIS does, hence what its motives are and why would you ruin a narrative in which you are thoughtful and knowledgable and others the ignorant sheep?

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#363
#365

Only in part: the East End as in Mile End, Bethnal Green. Lived that way and when my son was a toddler, 80% of the language at the playground was Bengali. NW, Neasden, Wembley - Hindi. Hackney, - Turkish, Kurd , Yiddish. Then west, as in west of Toff land (Notting Hll Gate and more recently Shepard’s Bush) - Acton - Urdu, Pashtun. A lot of west African dialects in SE, New Cross way. Don’t know of any area where there’s a large concentration of Arabic speakers other than Edgeware Road - a long-time focal point for Arabic speakers - a very broad spectrum from super rich to just getting by - a reflection of the huge differences between lands where Arabic is the lingua franca. Maybe my language mapping of London is well outdated though. I do miss the Smoke sometimes.

Since some music with mention of revolution has come into the thread:

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#366

I grew up in rural Northamptonshire.

Hardly a hotbed of cultural progressiveness.

Moved to Leicester (for those that don’t know, Leicester is mostly famous for its very large mix of ethnicity, especially those from South Asia and the Caribbean) when I was 19.

Certain, less enlightened members of my extended family have always made comments like “what’s the official language there” or “should have its own fucking flag mate”. I think they think they’re being clever and funny, in that way that racists think every dumbass racist thing they say is clever and funny.

Imagine my surprise when I see not one but two such comments on this thread. Now maybe I should give the two of you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you’re trying out a bit of that ironic racism, but you know what they say, if it walks like a duck…

More surprising to me is the fact that both comments have gone unflagged, which leads me to the conclusion that flags & co. maybe find this sort of thing funny, certainly funnier than millennial jokes anyway…

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#367

Duḥkhita

#368

Oh right yeah, this is the bit where you express your membership of/familiarity with non-western culture in some attempt to point out that you couldn’t possibly be racist.

Cool.

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#370

Long long term the UK will be stronger, but it will have had to take a much tougher path to get there.

The pain of the recovery journey from Brexit will need a shot in the arm for national productivity and innovation - which would have been less critical had it remained in the EU.

That struggle, once overcome, will birth a stronger UK. But it won’t necessarily be a pleasant experience.

#372

Ok.

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#373

I do, but I also like to point out racism where I see it.

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#375

Go on then, please explain how those two comments commonly (and I’d say almost exclusively) associated with racists aren’t racist…

Because calling me names isn’t going to achieve much.

#376

Or let’s just stop any racist joke, even for the tasty British irony: it is just unacceptable here.
Do it with your friends that “get it” that you are not a bloody racist, maybe.
Here, tolerance is zero.

To anyone: do everyone a favor and flag the unacceptable instead of loosing your (and everyone’s) time arguing with an internet stranger. Please.

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