2020 BeatMachine

Just found by accident that every single pattern change in this thing can have totally different samples in it. So one pattern, and the hit a hotkey and it switches to a totally different vibe.

Thats pretty crazy and kind of blew my mind since pattern A was an experiment I was messing with and pattern S was the actual groove. When I hit A, it just happened to work as a buildup that snapped right into S perfectly and helped make the track work for me. Wild.

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Shit this is tiny!!!v :grimacing:

I just loaded it up for the first time after seeing your post. I’m using a 15" MacBook Air.

I’ll definitely add a shortcut for the magnifying glass.

I do have the 27" iMac, but I think I want to keep this only on the laptop.

I found about this a few days ago thanks to a Richard Devine post: I was immediately interested… Now that I’ve read the whole thread I’m even more !
I’m about to rebuild my studio in my living room so I’ll soon be able to plug in my TV. I guess once I’ll know the interface, from what I see when I put the YT videos full screen, it won’t be so bad on my 17" MBP screen.

Its kind of small but in Day 3 I find myself whizzing around on it without much magnifying needed. Although I suspect the MBPro 16 is a pretty generous screen size, even compared to the 15 inch air. It’s a larger laptop for sure.

The workflow though is I typically just triple tap the magnify shortcut when needed. It is so fast and seamless with this that I prefer it to navigating around a DAW. Of course I will still use a DAW, but the point is that the 2020 requires minimal hand movement in comparison so I appreciate that.

No its not too bad at all. I have to say I keep liking this program more and more. I thought I’d use it just to create a couple of ideas and then export to finish in Bitwig, but I made a track already in it and it looks like it may end up providing at least 80% of the material for me.

It’s tough to explain why, but it truly has a hardware workflow where you just try stuff out and mess around, and many times the results are fantastic.

EDIT - have it running on my 27 inch curved screen in the studio above my laptop. Its fantastic in this setup. The GUI on this is definitely cluttered but it’s still crisp and sharp looking when magnified like this.

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I got the 3 finger tap enabled. I don’t think using 2020 will be a problem at all in time. I look at it like a having a mouse clickable groovebox, so this is going to be fun.

It does initially feel cluttered, but everything one page has its benefits.

Here, there are no distractions, it’s a perfect app for the laptop.

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Yeah Id suggest just logging time with it every day. When you find cool techniques, please share. It gets very fast to use, but its a rather deep groovebox.

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My resolve is def breaking. Feels like when, not if. :slight_smile:

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This thing is madness. :space_invader:

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Update here. I have been making beats on this thing and got a workflow going. The shuffle feel of this machine is really top notch. I basically use Q-P rows and make different patterns and variations where I am thinking intro - main - alt1 alt 2 main2. Just like on a hardware machine. I basically increase or decrease the modulations, the ADD and the sequences. it’s super fast to do.

Then I route the sounds into different channels. Anything that repeats on a channel I replace the sample so I can get some more sounds in the track.

Also for bass, the synth is seriously amazing. I have made some crazy basslines with it that groove super hard with not much effort. I am going to try it on leads as well. The sequencer is special, it really makes it easy to make great parts. The concept is based around a classic house/techno technique where you punch in steps where you feel a note should go and then use the transposer to change those notes around. The transposer can provide surprising results especially when you use ADD.

Anyway once I export the Stems, I am using Wave agent to split the WAV file into 12 sounds. I bring them into Bitwig, hardpan each channel and then bounce them to 6 stereo stems. I believe I read that the maker is going to make 2020 export 6 stereo files soon so this is a workaround for now. It adds an extra 5 minutes or so currently, not the end of the world.

In Bitwig I chop the audio at each new section I made in the 2020 (Q/W/E…etc) and then the beauty of Bitwig is I have the session mode right there so I can just drag all the files into their own scene and label them.

Then its simply arranging via trying different combos of the sounds and done. I find myself adding around 2-3 sounds in the DAW,

It’s the fastest workflow I have experienced in anything so far. I can make a beat and export it to Bitwig and prep it in an hour session easily. The next few hours are arrange and mix and done. It has probably cut my workflow in half.

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I haven’t exported anything yet, but good to know about the workaround!

Glad it is working out for you. As a counterpoint, I am a little underwhelmed at the moment. The sequencers don’t offer me much over what I can do in Bitwig (especially with the operators). I found that the more complex sections of the demo track are actually the audio FX (which sound really good) and not sequencer tricks (audio repeat etc). Anyway, I’ve decided to stay in Bitwig and not faff around with stem exports etc.

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Yeah Bitwig sequencers are awesome. It just depends how you like to work. I like having both options really. The beat machine sequencer for me is just ultra fast in terms of generating cool ideas with variation.

The definite star of the show is the modulation of the fx and the fx chains. combined with the sequencer part it is just incredibly fast to come up with quality ideas for me.

Once i bring it into Bitwig I use the Bitwig sequencers when I need a few more sounds. And I add more modulation to the 20202 audio i imported as well. So I treat it as a lethal combo. And of course the final move is the Bitwig project macros which are simply awesome.

Yeah it exports to a poly wave which is 12 waves in one. Common on multitracked devices. Wave agent will split them up in no time.

Kind of wild that nobody uses this thing but it’s becoming my go to now. There are things it does that Bitwig can’t do, like how fast the transposer is. Total bassline and lead machine. So I just use Bitwig after to arrange, automate further and mix. The slicer is very similar to simpler in ableton once you figure it out.

Also the way it smartly adds notes in randomly basically gives me a ton of usable material. I’m not sure there is anything faster for making beats that subtlety change forever and never get old.

Learning curve is really not high for all the info on the screen. That said there are subtle differences in a lot of the samplers that you may not notice first glance, since they look the same at first.

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Really interested by this.

How are people liking/using it more than six months after the release ?

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Quick update on this. It now exports actual stems instead of Polywave. So it saves a step in the export process.

If you don’t care about using software, it is the best beat machine on the market. Get a knobby controller and map parameters - it’s pretty much instant to do that. Plus switching patterns and sets on the keyboard is very intuitive. One thing he does in a demo is mash between multiple beats with a button press. You can set it so it changes on the 1 of the bar or instantly. So if you switch it to immediate, it can get crazy.

Very creative machine. If it was hardware I’m pretty sure it would cost at least 1k.

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Yeah I’m a weak man so I finally tried this. And wow. This is the most hardware a software can be. So fast and fun.

Yes it is a standalone but it is so easy to pair it with a DAW. I’ve sent to it Bitwig’s LFOs via midi CCs within seconds, and sending back the audio to Bitwig is also so easy with an app like Loopback.

With only a few tweaks, you can feel like Richard Devine on drugs. Here’s the 2 FM engines with 2020’s FXs and Bitwig’s LFOs :

Let me tell you, fun will be had.

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Why nobody talks about this thing ? This software is absolutely nuts !

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what most do you like about it?

For now, it’s the immediacy. You can have something running in no time. It’s the most fun I’ve had in a long time with something like a groovebox. And it gives me a lot of ideas to modify Bitwig to make it more ā€œjammableā€.

I’ve paired it with a midi fighter twister and a launchpad x and it honestly feels like the ultimate groovebox.

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