1010music Blackbox

Asking my question again - anyone here using a Launchpad Pro mk3 with their BB? I’m seeming to have weird things happening with my BB trying to control it with the LPPmk3

I used it for a few weeks. Didn’t much like it, you lose some of what I like about going for the Blackbox’s own sequencer. Launching of clips and loops were the most problematic, as I recall, and don’t even get me started on using external sequencer with song mode and stuff.

I have forfeited the quest of sequencing the Blackbox externally, though I am looking at what @mbillz is doing to get a grid + norns setup, to create ideas, loops, clips of stuff to go into the Blackbox. Essentially, replacing my Prophet12 + Keystep setup, which is where I do my groundwork first and then move to Blackbox for sampling and resampling with pedals.

I’ve got a Squid coming soon. Going to use it with my synths and might get a BB again so I can get some vocal samples and drums into my squid patterns…we will see. Could be a fun duo!

Edit: Well, ordered another Blackbox…will see how this all works.

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As I am only a quest, finding the correct Sampler for my needs, and BB is high on that list because of multiple outputs… Your external Synch problems were mainly due to DIN Midi and with that triggered/notesOn/Off that cam too late and were queued due to that, right?

As I will mainly use it as Drummachine and am able to sequence it via MIDI, do you think that problems will affect me too?

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Hey, well, the problem was more USB-related than DIN-related, I learned later. And the clock worked fine on its own, it was as you say when you launched clips and loops externally, that it got real ugly, real fast.

If you sequence the Blackbox externally, triggering one shots and similar, it’ll work just fine. However, I wouldn’t say it’s a promised land, because the Blackbox sequencer is actually quite powerful, but very specific and slightly fiddly to use. But its architecture lends itself to some unusual and powerful ways to create complex sequences, so apart from the fact that I ran into technical issues, I also didn’t really find a sequencer that matched the Blackbox in features on what I wanted to do.

The Elektrons come close, but not close enough.

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Is it possible to use the black box as a guitar looper?
I know it has stuff like midi learn, So can you hook up a Midi foot switch and configure it to record in a specific track?

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Anyone ever succeeded in syncing the BB to the iPad? I especially really would like to sync the start/stop, but all there seems to be are workarounds. Even bought Audiobus 3, but that didn’t work either. Any smart solutions available? I connect the ipad and BB via a cck and a Roland UM-One.

You can use clips that are set to auto play. Ricky Tinez has a video of it with his Modular gear

I use an iConnectivy mio 1x1 but I just use it to sequence soft synths. So others might have better feedback

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Yeah, sequencing is all fine, but I really would find it cool too use apps who have their own sequencer. But I found nothing that can sync for example Drambo to the BB clock and transport. The other way around would also be okay, for me its mainly a question of syncing the ipad with hardware like the BB.

Man the automatic tempo detection on this is so nice! I tossed a 140 bpm drum loop into a 77 bpm track and it synced like effortless butter right away. This thing is the king loop combiner and warehouse with a 256gb card.

My only qualm with this device so far is sometimes I load a sample folder and I’m met with an inaccessible ? Mark when trying to open it on the BB. Renaming folders usually helps.

Short wishlist for this device so far

  • even just a few more fx assignable to the 2 slots. 4 slots would be amazing but would probably destroy the cpu. Some kind of distortion to make drums slap harder, a modulation effect of some kind, a bitcrusher would all help make this thing the golden god of hip hop
    -global filter with resonance
    -microtime nudging. Unquantized recording might be kinda sloppy with the small touch screen, but I’d be open to it

Pretty sure there’s no automatic tempo detection :slight_smile: You specify a loop length in bars and it calculates tempo from there, but it’s certainly not tempo detection in the way the Octatrack does it.

Ahh ok I was wondering how it did it so smoothly. I didn’t specify a loop length just popped a loop in the sample cell and chose clip/ pressed play. Good to know I can tinker if I need to with loop length and such if I need adjustment (was wondering how to do that anyways)

I think it defaults to 8 or 16. Can’t remember.

I want to say I’ve read in the manual that Blackbox does automatic beat count detection for clips unless you specify it yourself. Maybe i’m mixing things up.

I’m on an ambient streak now, so here’s another one, all Blackbox, performed live and sliced from a set that lasted for about 45 minutes. Tho it felt a hell lot longer :slight_smile:

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Very nice! I like that it retains the melodic percussive sound of your more groove based work, subtle variations and all.

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Thank you, that’s so nice of you to say, you’re really listening. I appreciate it so much :pray:

I actually made this one from a funkier version of the same loops, but finished this one faster (had to, it was commissioned work). I like the funkier version better but haven’t managed to mould it into a proper structure yet, but will post it here, as is my custom these days, once it’s done.

Thank you for listening :slight_smile:

You are the blackbox king. Tone: sincere.

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Fun lil sketch with a bunch of single cycle waveforms and complex waveforms and drum duties/lead on the BB with the glorious compressor.

If I were on a desert Island the OT and the BB would be my ultimate combo:

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