1010music Blackbox

Ydu_r · August 26, 2019, 3:46pm

A comparison between the two would be interesting, weighing all the pros and cons of both.

circuitghost · August 26, 2019, 4:12pm

Yeah, I mean, the polyphone is fine as it is. More access points would be enough, not trying to launch more stuff at the time.

mokomo · August 26, 2019, 4:26pm

The iPad

doesn’t (yet) take an SD card and a 256GB or 512GB iPad is fairly pricey/file management/transfer (currently) sux
requires a separate sound card on the end of a wire (plus a power adapter) to provide 1 stereo audio input and 3 stereo audio outputs (& CV), plus stereo headphones output
requires a DIN midi interface (BB has TRS)
can’t directly host usb midi controllers

Though BB isn’t trying to take over the iPad market, to capture a decent user base, and to keep its edge for some users, 1010 needs to stay focused on the design of the BlackBox software: keep it fluid, cleverly featured, easy to navigate and encouraging of creativity.

There is definitely a place for it.

digiwut · August 26, 2019, 5:36pm

And now list what the iPad offers that the BB doesn’t.

vegeta897 · August 26, 2019, 5:53pm

Why does that matter? It’s not a question of which device has more to offer, it’s a question of why one would choose the BB over an iPad. If the things the BB has over the iPad are important to someone, they would have a reason to buy the BB instead of the iPad.

If I’m looking for a synth that has 3 oscillators, I’m not going to buy a 2 oscillator synth just because it has more features in other areas.

Anyway, I’ve owned an iPad for 7 years and have never really felt inspired when trying to make music or even play synths on it.

Sharris · August 26, 2019, 6:13pm

Same here, I’ve never felt inspired using my ipad for music. I really wish I could be inspired using my ipad… so much can be done on an ipad.

I do want to try incorporating my ipad into my set up somehow, maybe as a sound module. Or something to use with my Op-1 or sp404sx when away from the studio, I think it can offer a lot in a portable set up, it’s just finding a way to incorporate it & enjoy using it.

ddiamond84 · August 26, 2019, 8:05pm

I have both. iPad is amazing. I’ve gotten more music done on the blackbox. It’s so focused and contained- the iPad can do it all and a million things more. But it just isn’t the same. It isn’t about better or worse, one is just a lot easier for me to focus on. And some of the hardware specific things really help.

ddiamond84 · August 26, 2019, 8:06pm

Well said. Also I love your blackbox Instagram videos! They’re always a treat to see!

circuitghost · August 26, 2019, 8:56pm

In the meantime, I’ve been ripping drum loops apart all evening with the new update. I love it.

vegeta897 · August 26, 2019, 9:25pm

I would love to see videos from you.

blipson_old · August 27, 2019, 12:23am

New update available:

Version 1.2.2 includes fixes for the following issues in 1.2.1:

Loading bitbox presets, including some of the factory content would result in samples that could not switch pad mode
Live MIDI Keys data is not sent to the MIDI Output channel on a pad
It is possible to overload the unit playing several different notes on Granular pads when using Gate launch mode
The Speed on Granular mode goes below zero but doesn’t do anything.

circuitghost · August 27, 2019, 4:13am

I got zero video skills, tho😊

blipson_old · August 27, 2019, 4:46am

SoundCloud?

circuitghost · August 27, 2019, 5:36am

Yeah, as you’ve noticed, I’m not much for publishing my noodles, just finished tracks, and they’re far between right now.

But I don’t know. Maybe my thirty second adventures into granular land could be worth something.

What do you do for audio in your Instagram
videos @vegeta897? Just the phone or a separate recording?

vegeta897 · August 27, 2019, 6:27am

Zoom H5 as audio interface for the phone.

ddiamond84 · August 27, 2019, 6:32am

Yeah! Don’t be stingy!! Share some of that process:)

bienser · August 27, 2019, 8:00am

Thanks circuitghost,

Wellcome the iPad discussion, because it can serve as test platform before spending money in a set that works on the paper. Maybe a combination of Korg Gadget and BSP is nice enough for my early purposes.

My worries are about if you can trust on a tactile surface with menus when playing live and no risks are allowed.

circuitghost · August 27, 2019, 8:46am

Ha ok. Away from my gear for a few days now, but once I’m back, I’ll post some stuff.

ddiamond84 · August 27, 2019, 2:39pm

Whoo!!!

ddiamond84 · August 27, 2019, 10:35pm

I looked in the manual and through the forums and am feeling a little foolish, but I can’t figure out how to do resampling. I know where it’s located in the menu but how does it work? What’s the usefulness? People go nuts for this feature but I never understood the purpose or benefit of it. Any tips?