Re/sampled loop sync

[vantablack]

Hey. I need tips on ways to sync a loop to whatever machine tempo and bars is set. depending on loop source bpm the results varies but that’s ok! I tried locking sample end on the last step but it had no effect

[CarlMikaelBjork]

There’s no time stretch in the Rytm. So any loop will only play in sync if it’s at the same tempo as the Rytm is playing at the time.

Although with some clever pitch adjustments and equally clever maths, you can change the length of your sampled loop and possibly get it to play along at your chosen tempo. At the expense of pitch shift.

[vantablack]

im aware of that theres no time stretch, i think im after some alternative way to achieve it, to be used more like an effect rather than having a clean drum loop in sync
ive got maths tho im not good at math

[avantronica]

have a look at this thread, possibly some inspiration if nothing else

Timestretch

Not sure if this has been done already but here it is anyway. This method requires a little bit of set up, but should hopefully work for everyone. Settings vary depending on whether you use a 1,2 or 4 bar loop, and on the tempo stability of the original loop. I would recommend getting your original loop as clean as possible (in regards to your chopping/zero crossing etc). This might get revised as I play around with it somewhat. In this example I’ll use a four bar loop of the Amen Break I do…

[waftlord]

rytm does have another pseudo time stretch that frees up the LFO, utilising retrig.
as long as the sample is a perfect loop.

turn off velocity to volume on the loop sample track
in the velocity mod menu set one of the 4 modulation options to sample start point
set this start point modulation to +120 (maximum sample end setting)

place a trig on step 1 with 0 velocity
enable retrig on this step
1/16 or 1/32 or higher (experiment changing resolution)
length 16 (or length of the loop if more than one bar)
+127 vel

press play, change bpm

[vantablack]

thank you, i’ll try this later

[Prinzabu]

wow, that’s so clever! just had to say

[waftlord]

i only hijacked it from a MachineDrum start position PLOCK idea. Retrig just eases the process, remember to adjust sample pitch close to bpm if necessary and start combining other velocity modulated parameters and a (random pitch!?) LFO on each trig and you start getting into interesting audio terrain.

[ganeesh]

thx

[waftlord]

95% of my posts are pure waft, so always pleased to see a 5+ year old post i have no memory of writing being of use to someone.

i’ll add that i remember using loads of retrig enabled trigless trigs with various probability & conditionals for interesting rhythmic structures and variation, i also would do this on a shared voice and set that with similar (re)trigs and shift their microtiming a bit for amazing stuttering as each voice cuts each other out at high speeds. !can get clicky!

[Jeanne]

Or you can use my template to have it sliced:

Analog Rytm Loops/Chains Template (project file)

Hey all, since on the Rytm, samples are so much fun, but working with slices and loops is a bit of a hassle, I made this project file that can serve as a template for your own projects. It works like this: Open the Project Copy the Pattern Open your Project Paste the Pattern somewhere Copy & Paste the Tracks you need into your pattern (and be careful with your Projects, Patterns and Kits yada yada!) You can also open the project and save it to a new project and start from scratch. The Trac…

Edit: Didn’t realise this thread is from 2018