i made an unfortunate epxerience when buying a used XBase09 from eBay kleinanzeigen (germany). seller stated that everything worked in perfect condition, but when i recieved the unit, it turned out that one pot was very weak and its values were jumping from min to max. also, 2 pots were adjusted “wrong” (hihat decay max value at 11 o’clock - don’t know, pretty strange). also, the knobs were very hard to use.
after contacting the seller and pointing out that i would not have paid that price if i had known about this issues, he offered me 60,00eur refund. which was a good offer and a nice turn from his side. but i decided to send the unit back, as i did not want the overhaul hustle (which costs a lot more that 60,00eur in the end, and i just want to make music, you know). we agreed that he would transfer the money back to me as soon as he recieved the unit. i paid the shipping and packed everything very carefully and solid.
now the guy writes me that he recieved the unit, but it had a strange bug: when using the the hihat decay pot, the tuning would change. he sent me a video (http://www.hallo-wl.de/exchange/Video.MOV), which does show just enough to get what he means, but i don’t know… sound really weird, especially as the tuning jumps to a constant value.
i have some experience with the jomox stuff, and i know that it has its flaws.but i never heard of this behaviour, and the video seems a little bit shady to me.
i plan offering the guy a refund of 60,00eur, same as he did. what would you guys do?
You bought a machine from somebody on ebay, and you expect it in full working order.
you recieve the machine, but there are things broken/not working/not as you expected.
So guy offers 60 pound, or return machine…
You decided to return the machine (i prob would do same thing for same reason)
and now the seller is complaining, when he found more failures/broken things???
and now the seller wants money or something??
Thats weird in my book… i would get furious, prob have a day off to cool down.
if you send it back, because there are problems with pots… it would be weird
if the dude, cant find problems with those pots himself !! and yes, he describes other failure then you, but who cares… he sold you a lemon.
I think I have been to nice with these type of things on ebay… for example the problems with a x0xb0x… tried to settle it with the dude (some chinese guy) but he was janking my chain so long… i couldnt complain about him to ebay, or get ebay to arbitrate (not sure, how good that works, heard good and bad stories) .
For me this guy is not honest. If he continues to dick you around, sort it through ebay & paypal. It is unfortunate how many cheesy f’ing rats there are on ebay…spoils it for the rest of us.
part of it is the Jomox value ranges being really weird on their gear. the decays don’t work linearly on hi-hats for example on both the xbase09 and airbase.
Yes, it is a stupid situation. The_dreammer, you got it just right. Unfortunately, the whole thing did not happen via ebay, but via “kleinanzeigen.ebay.de”, which belongs to ebay but is more some kind of local-pickup platform - similar to craigslist. They advice you to make only deals in your local area, but until this situation, i had only good experience with people shipping stuff. but I sent the money via bank transfer not paypal, and there is no way to open a case or something. The only way would be going to the police, and nobody wants to do THAT.
The thing with the hihat decay affecting the hh tune did not happen when i tested the unit (which was about 2h), so if it really is broken, it must have happened during transport. I packed everything very carefully, but shipping hardware is always a risk. I dont know… I dont want him to have a broken unit either… But he agreed with sending the thing back to him…
I hope the guy will send me his phone number and we can sort things out. Thanks for the sympathies, guys!
Credit cards offer more protection than wire transfers, but it might be worth contacting you bank for advice - they may be able to reclaim the funds, or similar.
The guy sent me the money back, minus 60,00 eur i offered him as compensation. Maybe he screwed me, maybe not… The universe will kick his butt if he did.
How do you guys aquire vintega hardware? Only ebay and userforums… ?