I used to have an OTO BOUM and I absolutely loved the sound, the character and warmth it would leave on my old master recordings. Considering getting another one but I don’t know if it would be overkill on the Tonverk’s master out? I typically use a compressor on the master out, sometimes a degrader. Wish i could run both on the Tonverk master out but anyway…
I’ve never owned a Boum, but think the TV has so many options to make your sound fatter and warmer, plus it already makes very thing sound better out of the gate somehow, that you probably don’t need anything else.
It’s a nice to have, but it’s very nice. You don’t strictly need it but it could be used to define a sound and workflow. Maybe a simpler pedal could let you test the concept if you don’t want to pay up right away. Even a VST with a midi controller could work.
I have a Boum, I’m not one to sell gear as I’m a bit of a hoarder, but truth be told if I didn’t own one and know what I know now I wouldn’t of bought it.
For me there’s only one distortion mode useable, the other 3 modes just destroy everything on the lightest setting, so when using it on a master bus it tends to be a set and forget type of box with 95% of its functionality wasted.
To call it a warming box when only 1 mode of its 4 distortion modes at a light setting is actually capable of warming is very miss leading.
i have the boum as end of chain for years now. a little bit of drive and the filter a little bit down. no compressor. i really love how it brings everything together and ads some subtle width because of the stereo analog processing.
My advice: try to get as close as possible with the TV alone.
These busses let you degrade parts of the sounds instead of the whole output, I believe that you can use one bus as an inside Boum.
Don’t hesitate to resample if you fill like you lack of anything…
It seems easier to buy something, but it isnt necessary a better thing
Dig deeper!
I agree that only one of the distortion modes is useful (for most people), however I don’t see that as a bad thing - if it only had one to begin with I wouldn’t have cared as long as it were that one.
As an end-of-chain box it does that job very well imo.
I prefer the break-up and filter on the AH but it costs a lot more.
I’d describe Boum as a box ideal for somebody like blush response where it totally destroys audio and the fact the leds are rather cryptic that doesn’t matter as he just turns anything anyway.
But if you want to warm your master then there is a tiny sweet spot for that.
you could rephrase the original question - something like:
have I maxed out my TV/mixing skills and still not ending up with a sound I like?
does something I already own or plugins as end of chain get in the same area?
Is the way I’m mixing and creating sounds not yielding the end sound I’m after?
if it’s warmth on the master you’re after - there’re so many ways to achieve this and it’s usually much easier to focus on the elements and general balance than slap something on the end in my experience.
This question is pretty broad - it would be more fun to hear an example of an old recording, and then try and approximate it with what you have now, if you’re up for it ofc!
I think that this is true, however when I owned one I was happy for it to have a tiny sweet spot as it was a bit of a set and forget end of chain for me - it was great on techno, dub techno and other beat heavy electronic music. Added a lot of flavours I enjoyed.
I’m used to guitar pedals that are often the same, you might have a dedicated overdrive pedal that you use as edge of breakup only, or a delay that is permanently setup to do subtle slapback thickening.
For me effects pedals are often ‘find the settings you want and stop messing with them’ rather than performance tools.
I had AH MKI and Boum. I prefer AH for cleaner mastering stuff, eq helps a lot. I think the Boum lack eq to boost high frequencies (high shelve). I prefer Boum for dirty higher gain stuff.
I bought EHX Platform, very good for the price, but I don’t think I would use it as master fx for TV. I’d rather use it to sample other machines.
Why did you sell it? Apparently it wasn’t neccessary for your sound. So probably you don’t need it for the Tonverk now.
Personally i let go of the BOUM because it didn’t bring anything new to the table. It sounds great but i didn’t need it. Overcompressed a few of my mixes and if i used it more tame it wasn’t something i couldn’t achieve otherwise. And i didn’t like the cryptic UI.
I thought the BOUM would be better for this given the few features.
I ordered a BIM last month having eyed them for ages, certain I’d love it and I just couldn’t connect with it because of the UI. It’s not difficult, I just found it quite unenjoyable to use, prefer what I have and wasn’t really bothered about the sound either which surprised me the most.
Yeah, I played around with the Tonverk’s compressor last night. Also played around with the dirtshaper on one of the buses. I can accomplish, and even go beyond, what I desire using the combination of these two. Honestly, I really think Tonverk’s FX are incredible and I really don’t need a BOUM.
Gas defeated. There’s a reason I sold the BOUM years ago. Great unit, but ultimately not necessary for me. This just reminded me of that.
Not sure if you’re talking about live use but for recording I can share certainly an adjacent bit of experience.
I had an Analog Heat for a good while. It was great and taught me a lot about distortion, shaping it, EQ and that whole end of chain workflow.
I realised I do like/want distortion but in very mild amounts. Lofi crunch, peak control etc. This can be achieved easily and very conveniently with a couple of good plugins. I sold the Heat once I realised this.
Tonverk has incredible tools for this. Dirtshaper, bit of that maybe 25% is fantastic. I don’t really get the compressor yet tbh. Wouldn’t mind tips on how to use that as on the master (?!)
My recording process at the moment is mix as well as possible in the Tonverk, then record it’s stereo out into Ableton.
The final touch is a couple of things. Saturn 2, Strymon Deco plugin, very light touch colour from them. mid/side saturators can’t remember the name but there’s a couple of great ones. Corrective EQ if needed. This absolutely does enough and renders hardware distortion unnecessary for me