Will Tonverk get a reverb like the MPC or Maschine?

I would say the tiny and cheap Micromonsta 2 has an even better reverb than Novation Peak/Summit and it is also bi-timbral, so I think Tonverk should be more than capable.

Yes why not?

I notice you are the one who made the mallet video - very nice!

But yes, IMO this one mallet track you made (great sweet spot for the granular settings you nailed) and an epic reverb could stand on its own. Nothing else needed. That would be stunning.

If we need to shut shut some FX to gain more power-hungry FX then that’s more than fine - I thought TV was all about flexibility?

And lets be honest, almost nobody is using 28 FX at a time, so why not sacrifice some of them for something a bit more special?

Thanks.

Because of Elektron’s choices !
Has been discussed during beta…
I wouldn’t be against a CPU meter à la ZOIA, chose less fx that are more CPU consuming, and be able to reduce buffer size to reduce latency.
I think it won’t happen with Tonverk.

it think i’ve not tested yet the frequency shifter inside the new reverb. (rumslkang)
do you even set up the reverb guys ? i always put volume the the max because they are a bit quiet, decay too, i don’t like the high on the classic reverb so i filter a bit . they are great, not the one sound into reverb guys are talking but in a full mix they do the job. need to experiment later on the tonverk

Supervoid Reverb on the Tonverk is the same Reverb as on the Digis.

Only Rumsklang is a new one. [And Steelbox, hadn’t thought of that one since I never use it as reverb :stuck_out_tongue: ]

Regarding Supervoid Reverb, it has a large parameter range to explore!

I wouldn’t say ‘no’ to a fourth Reverb of course :wink:

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steelbox too is new

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i would’nt be so sure, i 'm a big FX+lfo guy :stuck_out_tongue:

A box of choices except for a decent reverb?

I keep seeing ‘Tonverk is for ambient’ across youtube etc but IMO the main thing needed for ambient is a big epic high quality reverb and this box does not have one.

I do intend on getting a reverb pedal to use with it but it would be nice to have everything in one place. I feel like it should be capable and is not out of order to expect it to have one with its rivals having it in place.

Not everyone is using 16 tracks and 28 effects.

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In my opinion, once we know exactly what Tonverk is, we can request features that match its purpose. There doesn’t seem to be a consensus on what this machine is yet, haha.

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however they could like the rumsklang limit the use on the sends so you cannot use more than 3 at a time.i thought the rumslkang was the big reverb for ambient stuff but i’m not a reverb specialist

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Yep, I hear you. I’m not unhappy about Elektron reverb options, they’re fine for some purposes and are overall completely viable in a busy mix. I do think they are comparably weaker than other FX in the Tonverk (some of which can hold their own against any dedicated FX pedal). But I accept that there’s only so much processing power available in any hardware box so, really, I’m just pleased that we have the option of adding dedicated external FX to a Send output because for my music, huge exposed ambient reverbs are pretty important.

Also for context I’m quite fussy about reverbs anyway (never liked Ableton’s stock reverbs for example, Valhalla is much better) so I’m not just being picky about Elektron.

the single FX i would like to see a big overhaul is the filterbank, as it is it’s not a real filterbank, more an equalizer .

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This is not true, only for the old machines. The newer machines can have up to 32 instances of reverb if you just want to have a complete bath of reverb…

Although for a single sound without resampling or some cheat you could only get sixteen that I can think of just because that’s as much spots you can route a single sound to, although a sound can have layers so that could add more but it is technically a different sound.

Yup they need to add a mod destination so one lfo modulates all 8 bands at the same time or add a switch so that the filterbank proceeds sequentially through each band like a moogerfooger 105 murf. They need a proper eq, a second fx mix slot and massively upgraded filterbank. Those are immediate fixes they should make to fx before adding wanky ambient reverbs and shimmers that no one really uses in a mix or live set lol

Mapping a launch control xl to all the filter bank bands and some knobs to dirt shaper on a separate fx track could get into some interesting territory. A launch control starting to seem like a great TV companion in many use cases. 8 tracks line up perfectly, fader mute and dedicated knob controllers while you can be doing other things on TV itself

Imagine a filterbank a la EricaSynths inside TV… !

For better or worse, this is completely against Elektron’s design philosophy. There is never a CPU meter on their devices. You never have to think about processing headroom. You never have to think “oh, do I have enough processing power to add this effect?”. There is no configuration of settings that should be able to max out the CPU in such a way to affect performance. That is an extremely intentional design decision that means that you never have to worry about going too far, it is impossible to “max out”. That decision creates limitations in what the devices can do, but it also frees you creatively to use the device however you want without having to think about resources beyond storage space.

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I wouldn’t mind if, as an exception to Elektron’s philosophy, we could have one good hall reverb per pattern. Having a single instance of a high-quality hall reverb machine would be sufficient as a send effect. I enjoy placing synths into big spaces, but the current reverb machines aren’t well-suited for that purpose. The TV reverbs sound rather cheap to me.
A convolution reverb would be a perfect solution.
Interestingly, I find Steel Box the most usable for synths.

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There really should be no need for a CPU meter at all I don’t know why people are bringing that up.

Agreed, a proper hall would do a LOT to improve the TV. I love the convolution verb idea bc it’s so in line with the tv philosophy of being sample based…

and an improved phaser while we’re at it
and an improved filterbank
and a chorus that pushes further into juno territory…

I love the effects on the Roland SP 404 MK2 as they are cool lo fi ones in contrast.