Why Dont people Sing on Electronic music anymore

Does this count as electronic music? Is this not singing?

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Sometimes they sing.
Blablabla, blablabla. :tongue:

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The line between electronic and pop blurred a long time ago. Animal collective from 2008 to 2010 or so played entire sets with only samplers, synthesizers and of course vocals, but you’d be hard pressed to call their music ā€œelectronicā€ā€¦

Moby had lots of vocal samples; lots of house producers used vocal samples…What is electronic music again?

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Yup. Ive got a mate who says she hates electronic music, yet one of her favourite bands is Lamb…

:man_shrugging:

All new music is electronic in some way nowadays. Either by way of instruments used, or by way of recording/production methods. So all the pop stuff with singing in it is electronic music. Shit, electric guitars… electric… guitars…

Anyway.

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because why would you taint something pure with words?

only half serious here. although lot of times the words can be offputting to me.

there are some great tracks with vocals but lots of tracks with vocals that sound fake to me. seems like the more ā€œprofessionalā€ a singer is the less likely i`m to enjoy the singing. too much technique, too much pretending, not enough real emotions.

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It gets in the way of the synth sounds

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read an interview way back about conversation between aphex and squarepusher. something about getting radio play or mainstream hit type success and richard told tom to ā€œput some vocals in your musicā€ and then tom came out with Go Plastic and Red Hot Car as the single.

aphex uses lot’s of vocals in his music over the years but as samples and not necessarily singing.

human voice is something we immediately identify with and can sing in our heads even if it’s not actually words.

edit: twitter doesn’t embed well.

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While I love vocals in most music, I hate it in most electronic music. Mostly because I don’t like that kind of singing use in there. The same reason I am not a R’n’b guy and I don’t like lots of modern Hip Hop refrains.

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I got a feeling that singing came back to electronic music in 2017, lots of artist were using microphones live at Berlin Atonal that year and years after that. I see it as a need for human touch so not everything is organised by the machines

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Maybe we’re defining ā€œelectronic musicā€ too narrowly to techno/house here, because:

Flying Lotus
FKA twigs
Arca
Andy Stott
Actress
Steve Spacek
Sampha
Moses Sumney
Jai Paul
Cid Rim
Jamie Lidell
Chromeo
Omar S
Johnny Jewel
Dam Funk
Daphni/Caribou
James Blake
Oneohtrix Point Never

and on and on

This is an AMAZING time for music. Any style you would like to hear is being made right now by somebody out there and it ain’t too hard to find.

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Glad you tried und took a real effort. :sweat_smile:

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This makes me hear the ā€œRed Hot Carā€ lyrics in a new light, although I already sensed some irony in them, even though I couldn’t put my finger on the why.

Not surprisingly, I still can’t find a lyric video for this song. :rofl:

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I’m my DJing career, tracks with vocals were very few and far between. Vocals tend to interfere with the meditative/trance aspect. They’re invariably trite too. Ooohs and aaaahs are quite common though. I play progressive/psychedelic trance/techno and chill.

This is one I consider a classic, for use early in the night and/or as an opener.:

World music cross-overs work for me though. Vocals in says - arabic, mean that I don’t get hung up on the words.

Natacha Atlas anyone…?

It’s easy to become cynical and old and turn the headlights on, truth is there is a tonne of music with vocals. Maybe even more than not. Just go into any clothing store.

Me personally, for some reason I shied away from vocals over the years, even though I grew up singing a lot. Singing is so emotional, and I don’t always want to be emotional listening to music.

I like people who do interesting things with their voice and have their own style. There’s a particular flavour going around at the moment I can’t quite pin down, kind’ve half closing your mouth and barely getting the words out. It’s like a half-baked Toni Child’s moment with vocals at the moment. I don’t really get it and kind’ve can’t stand it, so that keeps me away from a lot of stuff rn.

The world is due for a lot of great, interesting singers though. I guess they are there, though, if I was a kid I’d probably have my champions. Betting the next generation is a lot more punk and shouty and some great bands come out. I prefer vocals in bands, I think.

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Everything is being done all the time.

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ā€œwords don’t come easyā€

:joy:

Plenty do, you and I just don’t listen to much of it, maybe?

There’s so much music being done all the time, too much. Most of it we’ll never ever hear, vocals or not.

I prefer music without vocals anyway, or just a short sample, not full songs with lyrics.:man_shrugging:

Of course we are forgetting one of the all time greats here:

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Oldie but a cracker.

I had a phase of listening to mostly instrumental music. Then I discovered 70s prog where the vocals and instruments are mostly given the same priority in a song, and I started to loosen up a bit. Over the years I’ve become more and more interested in hearing vocals in electronic music, often to the point where if an album has one track with vocals, that’ll be the standout track for me. Lately I’ve also been rediscovering early 00s pop music and how interesting and unique it was.


(that chorus would be way too ā€œweirdā€ by today’s pop standards)

Anyway, in my own music, I’ve tried to sing a few times but it’s been disastrous. I’ve worked with other vocalists here and there but can’t find anyone who is into my music enough to be a longterm collaborator. I’m considering getting Vocaloid or similar but I’m shit at writing vocal melodies/lyrics!

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