Why Dont people Sing on Electronic music anymore

Lol. I though of you Craig when he said that, dont let your girlfriend read this. I bet that hurt :grimacing:

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To be honest, I almost spat out my coffee laughing at it. Fun anecdote, on the very first track we ever did a few years ago, I thought this isn’t working so added a lil autotune. She went absolutely ballistic and told me to never do that again. She was right. We redid the take and it sounded much better. She doesn’t sound American or polished like everyone else - why do people do that fake accent thing??? Anyway, some of my favourite bits of hers are when you can clearly hear the Irish pronunciation :four_leaf_clover:

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Im thinking asking her to use autotune probably is worse tbh :slight_smile:

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Almost insta-dumped I was :joy:

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One of my favourite techno tracks, with a vocal.

It’s probably easier to go without…

…also, I’ve noticed that if a track is comletely sequenced ā€œon gridā€ it becomes quite a job to make a ā€œnaturally timedā€ part fit in nicely, be it a singer or a guitar…

I do however enjoy the occasional visit from a singer to my studio:

I think the obvious answer is that they do. Pop music is electronic music, on the whole.

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Yeah, modern pop and hip-hop are mostly electronic music with vocals. EDM and trap are modern pop production.
(Because we live in Hell.)

Maybe many producers are so sick of commercial pop with indistinguishable singers that they purposely avoid using vocals? After all, you don’t hear many tracks without vocals on the radio. So it’s more ā€˜underground’ to avoid them entirely (generally speaking ofc!)

That’s simply a no. You don’t sing to techno.

Same

arguably most pop music is electronic music. there’s also genres like ā€œhyperpopā€ that are full of uh… vocals… not sure i’d call it singing.

i think singing in electronic music was always in the minority. probably happens at the same amount these days it’s just that we don’t hear all those songs in our lives.

there’s also still plenty of divas doing house music. lot’s of indie artists doing vocals in electronic music too. perhaps it just doesn’t get played in the clubs as much?

there’s jams like this (song starts about 45 seconds in) which is dope. we just don’t hear them everywhere. it’s not like everyone is at the club every week saturday night to hear the new cuts the DJ tracked down.

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Singing is far too emotional and ā€˜soul connected’ for many electronic producers who participate in the genre primarily to escape acknowledging human interaction and messy feelings. It’s about detachment, order, quantisization and format-fitting. Plus, they can’t sing.
(this is a personal opinion, from experience - though trying to break out of it)

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new Grischa Lichtenberger has tons of amazingly processed vocals.

a must buy imo.

https://raster-media.net/detail/index/sArticle/1198

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Bodyrox ft. Luciana - Yeah Yeah (Adult-Version)
Bodyrox - Yeah Yeah (Instrumental Version)

Octave-One - Blackwater (feat. Ann Saunderson)
Octave-One - Blackwater (Instrumental)

The thing with vocals it is so subjective to taste, it is risky that’s why it’s very rare to not have an instrumental version when the original is with vocals… sometimes when it’s not it can or fall in the ā€œguilty pleasureā€ or totally a no go/play if you can’t feel the thing.

On the bodyrox and blackwater i prefered when it’s released playing instrumental
the first because it was easy for the dancefloor people instantly like it… (so good tool but no vocal to me i can’t) and the octave one is a beauty of a track but i not super found of the vocals version (but it’s not as wrong to my ears to the bodyrox with vocals)

in the meantime i like old classic stuff like Good Life/Big fun, Ultra natĆ©, India, Rex the Dog " I Can See You, Can You See Me?", Mc Sar it’s on you…
Few things in that list totally falls in my guilty pleasure, i would not play, but listening it remembering me great moments or i feel guilty to like it in some way.
Tastes can be strange from time to time

For instance i like the intro of Etienne de CrƩcy with Madeline Follin - You
Because it remembering me Paula Abdul - ā€œStraight Upā€ (or Indra, Ace of Base) in a way but i not found of the track. (but i really love her voice very Paula Abdul style to me)

Hahaha and i am a deep, house and techno guy.
But i’m listening so much in reality so i don’t care anyway :sweat_smile: :relaxed: :yum:

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Since it is the reign of everybody-is-an-artist thanks to the gear we have access to, vocals are the last thing you can easily fake.

You don’t have sense of rythm? Quantization, grid, auto warp.
You don’t know theory? Throw some arp with the tonality set on.
You don?t’know how to play an instrument? Pack of samples.
You don’t know how to sing? Auto-tune… but that one is obviously shite… :wink:

It is also much more exposing to sing than to turn some knobs or even play an instrument.

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Money could one of the issue too, just thinking to that but in 80/90 possible to deal a featuring and get back on your foots with copyrights for the singer. Nowadays it’s already difficult for the producer and label records to get back on their foots. Unless to make a hit, no chance the singer get money or she/he directly take a fee to make the thing possible.

So singers could be possibly LESS interested except if you can promise ā€œtouring and Liveā€

Also for more sampling borrow i guess it’s not anymore the ERA for that with algorithm, we all know we take risk to be legally pursued

I primarily listen to instrumental music but don’t have anything inherently against vocals but you’ve hit upon one of my particular bugbears. So many vocalists seem to default to some random generic american or english (ameriglish? englican??) accent when they sing - I presume it’s due to the years of that being the default on the radio. So if I hear an accent that is something other than it’s great. Even better when I’m listening to people singing in their own language rather than defaulting to english… the extra bonus there is that i don’t need to worry that the lyrics might be a big pile of clichĆ© because I don’t understand it.

Really enjoyed his first few EPs/albums but had stopped paying attention. Will take that recommendation on board!

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