And at the end of the day they have to wrap their head around the things anyway 
Absolutely ⦠hey ⦠Elektron listen ⦠those videos and the presentations of Cenk sold three units to me, because they made me understand, what great boxes they are and how I could put them to good use ![]()
Some of us remember when manuals came printed in books! 
I still keep my Cubase 4 manual nearby when working. It was the last time Steinberg included a printed manual I believe.
I imagine pdfās instead of paper manuals save companies a fortune. I can understand why they do it if itās the case.
Tell me about it 
Another fan of printed manuals here, except for those shitty huge single multi folded piece of paper āmanualsā with 8 languages in unreadably tiny fonts that Korg and Roland recently seem to think are acceptable.
I think Elektron are a little stingy not including manuals on recent products, Iād rather have a manual than the hipster braided USB cable to be honest, if cost is a concern.
HUGE fan of manuals, they make me very excited. Will always read in advance of purchasing gear - both to see if the gear in question does what I need and because itās fun to me. The MD manual was a highlight of this experience. Also older Mackie manuals were very enjoyable to read and comprehensive. When a manual employs little icons (like the elektron ear) pointing out some kind of extra functionality or applied use, you usually know youāre in pretty good shape.
I donāt mind that gear doesnāt seem to come with printed copies anymore. Itās a waste to produce them when they may just be tossed aside in favor of PDFs or video tutorials for a good percentage of users. I just go down to the Fedex store and have a PDF printed and bound. Usually about $15. A waste of energy to get mad about this.
Videos donāt do it for me so much. I like to be able to reread and pace myself better that way.
But there are exceptions. Manuals are only as good as theyāre put together. Some just make things more confusing or actually have incorrect information in them. I just got an OP-1 yesterday (!!!) and Iām diving in all day today. Although the manual isnāt bad, itās certainly not the best. Iām actually watching the TE tutorial videos at the same time as reading it just to grasp the functionality of the different sequencers. This is a first for me!
I would trade a manual and USB cable if they instead shipped with those astronomically expensive plastic covers
imagine everytime you bought an elektron it came with the protective lid!? Be still my beating heartā¦
currently at the coffee shop making some crib notes out of various manuals, iāve found my jams are becoming less and less jammy and more and more ānow that youāve got all these patterns, its time to work them into something goodā.
Manuals are great, but if you are open enough to learn new things hands on, I think that helps for muscle memory for the next time around. For me reading manuals usually is a last resort (Before hitting the internet) because of my memory retention. The most used pages in all my manuals are usually midi implementation.
Then again, my first musical instrument was guitar. It had no manual, but took a lot of practice to learn the ins and outs. All people have different learning styles though, and as the generations pass on, people move on from paper to digital. Save the planet and all⦠I cant wait till manuals are actually interactive 3D holographic walkthroughs.
@h445 I think an interactive 3D holographic walkthrough of the OT would give me PTSD. 
Just imagine, interactive 3D holographic walkthrough sitting on a chair that is giving you exo-erotic massageā¦
i print every manual (except for those shitty huge single multi folded piece of paper āmanualsā with 8 languages in unreadably tiny fonts : me too darenager)
i really like to take one machine one manual and go take 2 or 3 coffee and pass my morning to learn and experiment things.
(when itās rain otherwise too much beautiful women pass along and thatās disturbing (Edit: distracting yes Better Word) me⦠and i put too much compression on the RYTM)
distracting? if disturbing, send em on my way.
I have once seen it.
Awesome
Did you already receive your Live?
No !!! I am in Europe
Then letās hope ⦠āshipping in Mayā will come true.
Iāve read the manual of just about every synth/sampler/related gear I bought. The worst Iāve read is the one for the Roland FC-300 foot controller - quite a torture session figuring out how to map pedals to the MIDI note numbers that I needed to trigger Octatrack functions that I wanted.
The OT manual is useful but a lot of information is either not explained well - like how to play back audio that you just sampled. This is the kind of stuff that sends people to forums looking for help.
Iām,too, am a believer in downloading and searching electronic versions of manuals before buying new gear, just to make sure it will actually do what I expect. Weāve seen posts over the years from people who got an OT or whatever without doing some homework, like the guy who was shocked to find thereās no āundoā function in the pickup machine.
