Interesting, there is a pair of them sold used close to me, so I could try them out. What would you say are the main advantages over the Ilouds? Does built quality only refer to how long they will last or also influence sound?
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An interesting comparison of the SC203 and the Genelec 8020D:
I am also tempted to just go for the iloud MTM since they come with soft- and hardware to calibrate them to the shitty room. @chaocrator has pointed this out in a recent thread dedicated to micro/mtm (thanks for the suggestion!).
I feel like since I don’t have anyone with experience around to help me set up the speakers and treat the room, the MTM might be the best solution. Or could I easily get calibration software and if needed a microphone and do this with just about any monitors?
The MTM can be found used for 260-380€, which seems like a no brainer.
For a pair? Where are you seeing that if I may ask?
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Checked again, was worded weirdly, prices were for one speaker only. But still, getting two of these including the calibration mic and capability for +/- 600€ seems like a great deal. However, I am still leaning towards the iloud micros and then invest in some equipment for treatment. The MTM seem to be pretty bassy and loud, which is not exactly what I am looking for to play in my living room with lots of neighbors in the same house.
Yeah, I had the same debate, at the end of the day I could get the Micro for 1/3rd of the price of the MTM (more or less) and I wasn’t sure the advantages of the MTM were worth that premium. It also pushes them into a price bracket where they start to compete with e.g. the Neumann KH80, whereas the Micro seem to be in a league of their own for price/performance (discussed here: iLoud Micro vs. iLoud MTM - how much of an upgrade? - #5 by Monobear).
If I’m really happy with them (I’ve never used small monitors, but I can believe that modern DSP technology enables them to do some pretty impressive things) then maybe down the line I’ll look to upgrade to something more expensive… I figure I can always sell the Micros, or just keep them around as I’m sure they’d be useful now and then. (And if I’m not happy, they’ll go back to Amazon!)
Got the iloud micros für 210€ used. They arrived today and I first thought it must be something else when the postman rang: they are so small that the previous owner didn’t even have to send them as a package.
Glad I could still try them in my current living room, where I am familiar with the acoustics. They sound absolutely incredible for this price and size, love listening to professional productions as well as my own stuff so far. Curious how it will sound in my new place. Thanks for your advice here! I wouldn’t‘ want to use them for regular listening though, they seem to sound not optimal with more folksy stuff like Aldous Harding, guess they are optimized for more bass heavy / electronic stuff.
One question: to save space, I would like to prop them up on some desk stands rather than microphone stands. Would you recommend the cheap Thomann etc. models for this or are there significantly better solutions?
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I have them on these cheap desktop stands:
They’re not perfect since they still transmit quite a bit of vibration to the desk (not sure if other type work better), but I like that they can be folded for portability.
Also, raising them at ear level makes them sounds much better IMHO.
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what stands brand are these?
They’re not available in this link anymore, but this is the model: https://www.amazon.com/Alctron-height-adjustable-desktop-portable/dp/B07MG87594
I’m in Argentina though, where we don’t have as many options as in Europe or the US. So you might be able to get something similar but of better quality, if you’re in one of those regions.
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They are build in a block of aluminum, speakers are protected by a grating, there is isopods to avoid vibrations and orientate the monitor.
And above all, they sound incredible.
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These look nice, thanks. Would you say such mini stands with a microphone plug are better than something with a plate like this?
For my part I took those with a heavy base and it’s perfect for small Génelec.
Those with the attachment of micro are cushioned at the bottom by a wide rubber corolla, I put a soft ring at the bottom and top of the tube and I like their safety.
You must have compatible monitors of course, or want to drill and thread those that are not… 
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I wouldn’t say they’re better than anything else tbh. They don’t feel super quality, but they’re easy to fold and carry, as I’ve mentioned, so that made me go for those… I don’t think we have those you posted in Argentina - and if we do, there probably much more expensive. If I go for the MTMs I’ll probably research other options for those.
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These look nice. I kinda prefer mic stands, since they look more elegant. But would the rubber stands with a plate absorb more sound or are they more or less the same as mic stands with rubber?
I haven’t done a comparative test but weight+slack seems like a good absorber combo to me.
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sorry, my English/knowledge of mic stands is too bad to understand what you‘re suggesting. The stands you posted or the ones I posted 
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Until very recently, HEDD type 07 mk2 (sadly moving into a space where I won’t be able to use them and had to sell). Absolutely the best monitors in their price range though, so rich and detailed but incredibly comfortable to work on. The Mk2s include a low frequency extension control to bring their range right down to 30hz and you really can work on bass heavy material without a subwoofer. The lineariser stuff really makes an audible difference as well.
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If it can reassure you, my English must not be better.
It’s mine that have a weight that will dampen the vibrations.
I am not a specialist in wave transmission, maybe someone here can invalidate or validate this idea.
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Were they the first Monitors you bought?