Where to learn about Polyrhythms?

Naturally, I was very excited to see this update as I’ve never experimented with polyrhythms and wanted to give it a try, however, I’ve come to find that I am completely clueless as to how to create good sounding patterns using them.

Is there any (hopefully free) tutorial on creating polyrhythmic beats? Preferably less theoretic and more “hands on” as I also happen to know very little music theory. :slight_smile:

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As a drummer since childhood I can really only think about polyrhythms like a drummer would… but I think that’s the best approach, whether you’re playing drums, programming beats, sequencing melodies, etc.

As such, this is more of an inspirational brain-dump / collage of a video than a straight-forward explanation or tutorial, but I hope it at least jogs something loose in the brain… go ahead and ignore the theory/math if it’s confusing and just feel out the interlocking parts you hear. Might be worthwhile to pause and practice some air drumming when the mood strikes, the best way for your brain to understand is for your muscles to try it out. (it’s okay, no one’s watching)

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Courtesy of Carl-Mikael. Really great channel for other stuff too :slight_smile:
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Definitely going to check this out, but I’m hoping someone will make a DT or DN specific video.

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I feel like once you dive into it you wont really feel the need for a tutorial or anything… most of polyrhythm is theory and most the theory is math. Just start with short patterns so you can actually tell when they repeat and expand from there to get different pulses of rythm.

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West African drummer music is good for that. There are some books with patterns

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Listen and learn :wink:

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Yay. Thank you!

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It works basically 100% the same if you can look past the shape of buttons and look of menus. Terminology and workflow is pretty much equal!

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Maybe I should dust of this old clip as well.

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Found the following link in a older mail from NI.
https://blog.native-instruments.com/producing-with-polyrhythms/?uuh=0e2e517e646bbf2a7d01a643f1807924&mNl=1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=Blog+newsletter+0619+c%3DBlog_0619+b%3DKomplete+t%3DBlog&utm_content=owned

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what’s so special about “polyrhythm”?

I thought it was simple; you have your whole-note beat (x/4 for common time) and whatever notes in between, the 8ths, 16ths, triplets etc are the polys.
Getting into odd times, compound time sigs, same concept, different # whole notes.

Its just another way to excite the brain, rythms that pull and push apart or drift but ultimately come back together have a satisfying feel to them.

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Your video was SUPER helpful. In replicating your beat I definitely got to understand some basics, thanks!

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I think that just be cause the pattern length is different doesnt make it a polyrhythm. A quick cheap way of creating them is to use different step lengths but you cant use an even multiple of 4.

Ie if i make one pattern with length 16, and another pattern of length 8, it doesnt make it a polyrythm. If you make the second one 5,6,7 or 9 you would be getting closer, but it is still possible to make a non-polyrhythm.

It is about having multiple rhythms, this page has a good description and examples https://www.musical-u.com/learn/making-sense-of-polyrhythms/

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Excellent. Thank you!

Thanks for the video. Dance moves were entertaining also!

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ok, i think i understand. tracks with different pattern lengths, for example one track 3 steps, the next 6 or 7 (my favorite) and so forth. but in such a way the listener will not notice it, am i right? but the word “poly/polyphonic” was just a little irritating to me, because this is really nothing special! the digitakt and digitone can do it i’ve heard, the older devices (MD & MnM) don’t^^

Most people won’t hear it, but they will probably feel it. Feel matters more to me when I make music than intellectual ideas do.

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