On the contrary, you don’t suck. To explain, “not all men are terrible!” or variants thereof are responses that tend to pop up in every discussion about feminism and privilege, often from dudes who feel personally attacked. Problem is that it’s obvious that not all men are terrible, and the defensiveness tends to complicate discussion about the men and male attitudes that ARE bad. I brought it up not to criticise you personally but because it’s so common that it’s practically a meme at this point.
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The mods should lock this thread before it spirals out, just sayin’…
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Please, everyone, take it down a notch … and really, really think hard about that next reply
DIscussions on weighty topics no matter how honourable the original intention will inevitably (it seems, sadly) descend into 
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Don’t forget to breath people…,
and find the love in your hearts, it will help guide what you say…
Love you ALL!
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This whole thread is a meme 
Everything that everyone is writing is obvious! If anyone thinks they’re gonna say or read anything new about equality, on elektronauts.com, then they’re in for some disappointment
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Or take personal responsibility and quit spiraling, people.
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Quota is the only one solution human find.
+1 for lock
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Seconded
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+1 for unlock but enforced modding
as challenging as these discussions can be, the more important that further insight wrt the topic is at least attempted. One reason why this type of discussions often bomb is that they get derailed even before they really get started.
EDIT: Since this thread is now locked, I regret that we could not communicate this topic in more detail. Obviously this issue is very painful for many users, and too hard to discuss about without everything overheating. There is many generations worth of cultural bias, frustration and hurt to unlearn from both sides of the fence it seems.
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Okay - here is the deal
We need a timeout … that’s all, park those emotions for an evening and come at it with some calmness tomorrow
It’s just a temporary lock, for the sake of community peace
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Let’s try again then … If you’re getting worked up and considering responding please take a moment to contemplate if those specific words will inflame the topic or get someone else worked up … There may be a majority of men on Elektronauts, but i’m just as confident there’s a considerable majority of feminists too, so it shouldn’t be so hard to have the conversation pan out cordially, although the nuance of disagreements is never quite so simple …
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What does cis mean?
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Thanks … weird though. Wonder what the actual letters stand for.
this is hopeless to be honest.
the direction this thread took…
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Tbh this thread just reads like an excuse to circle jerk on how ‘striving’ we are as male humans regarding a struggle that simply requires change on an individual level. A bunch of musicians trying to over-intellectualise a simple equation and be more ‘right’ than each other won’t help anything. Just be cool/kind/considerate. To EVERYONE. Easy…
Doomed thread.
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Very interesting to read, gives insight into human behaviour.
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