When people at the club don't understand that you're doing a live set

This is a bit of a long post about this really perplexing (but funny) situation I experienced recently, but I feel like the story needs a bit of context. Besides, what good is an internet rant if it’s just a few sentences?

I played a live set at a club on Saturday night; it’s primarily a restaurant/bar in the evening but half of it is a night club area with a dance floor, where different groups DJ on weekends after the restaurant closes. I’ve eaten there a few times in the past (amazing yakiniku) but I didn’t really know what the vibe of the night club side was like. I went about a month ago when some techno DJs were playing, it was actually really cool and there were a decent number of people there. So I was asked to play between two local techno DJs and I put together a live set on my hardware setup. The club was not that busy this past Saturday. Not a big deal as long as people there seem to be into it, I finally started finding opportunities to play live last year, so I’m just grateful to be able to do it.

I was on for a little over an hour. About halfway through my set, this girl comes up to the booth, leans over the little wall that separates the booth from the dance floor, and says “Hi. This is really great. Can you play something different, something that my friends and I can dance to?”

My instinctive response was “I’m not a DJ.” because I assumed she would understand what this meant.

“Oh is there a DJ around somewhere?”

This type of situation is difficult for a few reasons: it’s loud, so it’s difficult to have conversations and explain things to people. I’m playing a structured live set that I’m trying to keep interesting and on-time, so again, kind of hard to explain this when I’m trying to focus on what I’m doing. And I’m just a bit socially awkward in these situations; I’m perplexed that she doesn’t understand that I’m not DJing, and I don’t want to be rude, but it’s difficult to explain to someone if they can’t see the difference between turntables and drum machines/synthesizers. And I know people who aren’t in the scene might not be able to tell the difference, but this is just not the time or environment for me to explain that to someone while I’m playing.

So I say “I’m playing live music. I’m doing a live set. I’m not DJing.”

“So you can’t play something else then?”

“No, I’m sorry.”

She walks away. About 15 minutes later a different, similar-looking girl comes up. She leans into the booth.

“Hi. It’s our friend’s special night, can you play something like faster, with more energy?”

At this point, I’m kind of annoyed. I know she’s with the same group as the previous one. So they seemingly just decided to send someone else up to the booth to see if they could do a better job at persuading me to do something that I’m not even capable of doing.

“I can’t, I’m playing a live set.”

“So you’re not going to do it then?”

At this point I stop making eye contact with her.

“No.”

“But it’s our friend’s special celebration.”

“That’s cool.”

She walks away.

A few minutes later I noticed the dance floor went from having 20-30 people to just half of that. After the set, my friend told me it was some big birthday or bachelorette party or something, and the whole group just straight-up left after the second girl walked away. It wasn’t a busy night, so it felt considerably emptier after that happened.

My live sets are very structured as I build them from tracks I’ve produced and create transitions between them, so it does have a similar flow to a DJ set, I’m not doing an improvised set where things get really weird and experimental or anything. Everyone else seemed to be enjoying themselves and people were dancing consistently throughout my set. My last live set before that was a few months ago at a more underground gay club, basically the most legit place for techno and dance music in my city. The club was very packed throughout my set; everyone seemed to enjoy it and people were very complimentary to me afterwards. So I’m fairly confident in the quality of my music; I’m not worried that those girls were asking me to change what I was playing because my music is bad or anything. I think I just assumed that when people see a club advertising a techno night and explicitly putting “Live Set” on the flier, they know what they’re getting into.

And yet this group didn’t understand that. Maybe they assumed this place was going to be like one of those generic clubs where the DJ plays upbeat EDM and pop song mashups and transitions to a different song every 30 seconds, or something like that. It was just a very weird situation. I really didn’t want to come across as rude, but they both acted like I was obligated to adhere to their requests, which is pretty rude if you ask me! I mean, if you’re gonna go to the club, learn some etiquette. What DJs even take requests anyway? This isn’t a wedding reception. DJing is a craft. You go to the club to let the DJ take you on a journey, you don’t try to dictate where it goes. The same thing applies to live sets. But it was just hilariously absurd. I was really dumbfounded; I had no idea how to explain twice: No, I cannot just play “something else”, this is music that I made, being played live out of the things I made it with, which are clearly not CDJs or anything resembling turntables!

All in all, it was a good night. The rest of the small crowd enjoyed it and everyone was really nice, I’m just grateful for the opportunity. Does anyone have any similar stories? I wouldn’t be surprised if this sort of thing happens regularly.

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Next time you could print up a short explanation of the situation, and hand the paper to them. Something like:

“Hi there! So I am not a DJ. I am playing a live set on electronic music instruments, which requires a lot of setup and rehearsal. I am sorry I can’t accommodate your request, and hope you’ll enjoy the rest of my set. Thanks for understanding!”

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I think that despite what you’re feeling, this is pretty common for dj’s hence jokes like “dj fakes own death to avoid taking request” etc.

As a musician it’s demeaning. It’s like playing a set with your band and someone shouts “PLAY FREEBIRD!” and then other people start shouting bar room type requests etc. It’s just the type of thing that people do.

Your feelings are completely valid, but it’s not a shock to read this. I think you should not expect the tiger to change his stripes just because you explain that you aren’t a piece of meat.

A similar situation comes to mind with @Snipecatcher who is a bass player by profession, but also does electronic sets on a weekly basis in-between bands at a regular music night locally. There has also been a similar misconception that he is a DJ and some people had to explain that he’s playing live music, but to a “normie” something like a cdj machine and a hardware groovebox look very similar.

Beyond that, drunk people are obnoxious. People are obnoxious. We are all obnoxious to someone, so while it’s demeaning and annoying, just try to be accepting of the fact that people are gonna continue to be that way and it’s just a hazard of playing live music in that environment.

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Good idea I had the idea of hanging a little sign like that on the back of my setup.

It’s not something I took personally or anything, it was just more funny than anything. It doesn’t surprise me that it happens, but it caught me off guard because I haven’t been playing live long enough yet to expect it I suppose.

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Theres always going to be that bunch of drunk people that cant comprehend you’re not a DJ and wont play requests. And in fact, couldnt play a request anyway.

They are unavoidable.

The only thing I have ever done that works, is simply do not engage with them. Dont make eye contact, dont talk to them. They’ll just leave anyway.

Its weird because when playing in bands, we never got asked for requests, ever.

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This kind of shit happens when you are DJing too, trust me…have almost gotten into some fights about song requests with idiot dudes.

I would not be too bothered, just keep doing your thing!

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One reason you should never hire me to play at your swank club/restaurant is that I’ve got DJ Assault queued up in YouTube at all times.

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Back when I was in a ‘real’ band (indie folk/rock) we played a 2am slot at a venue. We were setting up and noticed that there were heaps of metal fans in the room, who had stuck around from the previous 3-band lineup that ended around 1am. All lesbian metal acts.

We immediately decided to ditch our acoustic guitar and piano tracks, and turned up the fuzz on everything else. Still we were screamed at by some of the more inebriated women in the crowd, 'play some SABBATHHHHH! as we were clearly too quiet and timid for their tastes. So it does happen to non-electonic acts.

Good times. These days in my electro era I thankfully retain enough keyboard action, and usually have a live drummer, that it’s rare to get requests. Either that or we’re just so good at clearing the dance floor, room, suburb etc of all non-family members :stuck_out_tongue:

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I just want to say that you should also take it as a compliment. People who think that you’re dj’ing someone else’s material must think that the music sounds like real music. Let’s not get into the semantics over what “real” music is, but the perception that you’re presenting professional grade music of some kind, hence “dj” is the assumption.

In a way it’s exactly like a compliment, you know? Just the way that it was presented is inappropriate.

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Sorry this happened to you. If this happened to me, it would live rent free in my head for the next 10 years :skull:

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My sister used to got to every person playing music, asking them to play “Barbie Girl” when she was drunk. Chances are she would have asked you too, from the venue you’re describing. At least it sounds like a place that some people stumble into or go to when they wanna hang out and dance a bit, but don’t want to commit to going to a club where all you can really do is dancing. Maybe you can ask some DJs that play at this place how they handle it, as I’m pretty sure the same happens to them.

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Someone, probably quite drunk, couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t play an unmarked CD-R of some random music that they tried to get me to insert one time in the middle of a set, even though I tried to explain that I had no idea what it was and why would I just add it to what I was already playing, so they stomped off declaring me to be “the worst DJ in the world!”

I took it as a compliment and a future goal to improve upon, though I would normally go out of my way to play requests if it was something I’d be likely to have with me (in the context of a pre-streaming era) and could work into a mix.

I don’t really play danceable music live though, so no-one ever asked me for requests then. A friend playing obnoxiously noisy skronky electronics on an ER-1 in a Belleville hipster bar did get asked for something to get the party started, but he generously ignored them.

Is this still an (ironic) thing at gigs? It used to happen all the time at some points in the '90s - '00s, in London at least, for wildly inappropriate bands - like Galaxie 500 or someone, though Shellac would have probably played it – if they seemed like they were pausing for breath, and usually got a big laugh.

BRB “Free Bird”

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I’ve never been lucky enough to be in such a situation, pretty unlikely I guess, given my ouvre.

Don’t think I’d be very polite though, I’d probably tell them to go fuck themselves immediately. I think you handled it very well, all things considered.

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“Have you got any Masonna mate?”

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When I come to see you I’ll ask for Barbie Girl mate.

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Some people just think the world is only for them to enjoy. I wouldnt worry about it.

That stuff’s never happened to me when I’m playing live, but when people come to ask requests when I’m DJing, I either try to accomodate them or say “apologies, no can do”. A person making requests is just one of many, I aint going to prefer their indulgence over the enjoyment of a larger pool of people, if what they’re asking for isnt aligned with whats going on in the room.

If someone came to me asking me to play faster though, I would do it if the room could handle it… just up the BPM and keep goin!

FWIW, some punters these days think everything “electronic” is made by DJs… trying to explain to them that “I’m playing live” is a waste of time… just swallow your ego and accept being called a “DJ” with your preferred level of sarcasm…

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You handled it very well!

An explanation card could come in handy or just leave a Trig free for an “Ah, yeah!!!” sample.

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my mate was playing a live set, bashing a Novation Circuit, Microkorg…think he had an N64 controller he’d adapted to be a MIDI controller

someone in the audience had been trying to get his attention for ages and eventually he relented with a ‘what?’ and she was like ‘have you got any Sean Paul?’

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