What's next for Elektron? (Part 2)

Yes please. With multiple outputs of course.

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I’d love something portable and battery powered to rival the XY or at least Move.

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I want to see Elektron’s take on a proper granular machine.

Or, and this is a long shot that I never see them doing but would be cool anyway but it is cool to think about… an Elektron semi-modular box.

Or… simply a MKIII for the OT. New UI, more tracks, more RAM, more/better FX, and general QoL upgrades (never going to happen though lol).

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I can’t imagine I’m the first to bring it up but it would be fun and kind of left field:
A digibox breakout box that brings out fixed controls for a selection of commonly used FX (opinions may differ but verb, dist, compressor and an end of chain section with dist and comp) and a second set of the parameter keys (trig, source, filter…) with corresponding knobs and maybe the screen. A battery to run itself and a digibox or two to seal the deal. In this dream, overbridge is made of magic and can do anything.

Let’s hope they hire someone able to create buttons not melting into a sticky mess.

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What actually is the cause of this and how long does it take to become a problem? I’ve had my DT for over a year and the buttons are fine.

The cause is that they coat the damn things with a transparent rubber coating that degrades with moisture in the air and temperature changes.

When it happens is very unpredictable, they appear to be fine and the day after suddenly welcome to stickyland!

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At this point I think Tonverk, Octa 3, Rytm 3 and a new portable are really good guesses. Even an A4 3 (A6 or A8) if it’s not too much more work to bring A4 onto the new platform after doing the same for Rytm.

As far as rubber coating is concerned, there are at least two people 3d printing hard plastic alternatives now, so I’m not pressed about that anymore! Elektron should fix it but no sign of that. They really started to take off after adding that silky luxurious touch feel, so

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Just from comments and seeing how many OT are being used still, it would make sense for Elektron to continue further development and feature improvements on a solid platform already. Besides, it must be expensive to completely introduce a new platform and having to spend years debugging it. It will be an evolution.

Yeah, I’ll add some new features to the OT and of course update the internals - CPU and other hardware components like replacing the CF card and those melting keys! With so many new boutique machines out there, they’ll need to add some new features, or their version of it like the OP-XY being seen as a revolutionary device.

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a strategic move would be if Elektron starts selling coated and non coated buttons on the Elektron website - so people can choose whatever option they prefer…

that would solve the issue with the rubber coating as once consumed you can buy a new set of buttons or upgrade to the non coated ones.

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there should be no need to upgrade buttons for devices that cost this much, they should be built to last.

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100% agreed - but it seems Elektron loves the look of this type of rubber coating on the buttons and knobs- i do not think there is a solution unless they change the whole aesthetic of the machines with a different look

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mine have been fine for what it’s worth but I haven’t owned one of their longer than a couple of years. My DTII is as good as new tho touch wood.

yeah I had suggested the same before. Cuckoo mentions this in a DT2 video that it was a dual layer old OS + new OS so Elektron could do the same with the older trinity of machines adding features while keeping the old OS underneath. I heard that the original OT programmers are all left the company so keeping that and adding on a second OS on top could allow for new features . Sounds pretty inefficient though but this isn’t a laptop afterall so may not matter really.

There are plenty of solutions, but all of them are slightly more expensive than the current way.

Which is the cheapest way possible because they consist of a white (semitransparent) plastic injection molded button which is then painted black, laser etched in bulk (hence the slightly misaligned text on some buttons) and finally coated with the shit.

I think they could have done better, much better with a little extra cost!

But instead they decided to go that route and making customers pay 80+ for a complete button set once they are left with a sticky mess.

Despicable

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Which is the experience of the majority of users, which is why they haven’t been changed.

Don’t get me wrong, if it happens, then it’s shit - but this coating is used widely and failures are not the norm. It’s a classic case of a loud minority - you’re obviously going to complain if it fails, and it’s the complains that we hear.

I have this coating on parts of the inside of my car, which is 10 years old and has had 3 owners, and it’s fine.

That said, I would prefer the kind of ā€˜soft feel’ coating you get on high quality keycaps. My keyboard has this type of plastic and it feels premium and there is no chance of degradation. Probably costs a lot more but I’d take that over cheap smooth plastic as an alternative.

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TBF, if you let a load of grime from your fingers and dust from your environment settle onto your boxes, I’d be surprised if the buttons DIDN’T end up a mess.

It takes a couple of seconds to dust down your box. And use clean hands when using them. Seems like some people treat their units like shit lmao

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I don’t really care what they feel like as long as they are built to last!

I just use mine in the studio, I’m sure sweaty clubs is a different story. Or a humid country or whatever.

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I might add little granite covers to each of them. Combine my interests of climbing and music.

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This is a myth, stop spreading it. Rubberised coatings can go sticky regardless of how clean the user’s hands are or how clean they keep the device, I and others have had it happen on stuff that’s just been sitting in storage. It seems likely to do with combinations of humidity, maybe other nearby materials that are offgassing and causing a chemical change. EVEN IF that myth was true, it would still mean that manufacturers should be using a material that simply wouldn’t deteriorate, right?

Textured doubleshot PBT caps are what they should be using, or at least ABS. PBT definitely holds up better over time though.

Grippy coatings on buttons that the user might want to run the hand over (like when you want to quickly place trigs on every step with a sweep of a hand…) don’t make sense anyway. I can understand it with the knobs because being able to smoothly adjust parameters with one finger is nice, but for buttons it makes no sense.

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