That’s kind of what I was getting at earlier - I wonder if new box format = new code/platform meaning more of a grounds up approach rather than reuse that may have happened historically. Probably one we’ll never know!
You would think software wise the DT is basically a ‘tweaked’ version of the digital side of the RYTM and the midi side of the OT.
Makes you wonder whether the chosen hardware may also be to blame. Maybe they took the cost cutting a little too far with this one. Really hope not for Elektrons sake.
Could you imagine total DT recall? Ouch
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The mixed up buttons thing is not trivial to me. It’s a very telling sign.
Free tshirt? I’d consider that an insult.
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Are you talking about the physical buttons on the machine are in the wrong place?? (Have an OT so didn’t go near the DT)
All I have to say to that is ‘Wow’.
I love my Digitakt, the immediacy is superb even with a few quirky UI choices that will hopefully be ironed out based on user feedback. Sampling into it is a joy and yields fast useable results with little effort.
However, it doesn’t take much to see that compared to other Elektron releases this feels rushed - I was preorder on A4 and don’t recall this level of showstopper bugs and hardware issues in the initial batches (flaky paint, whatevs)?
Correct me if I’m wrong, this Digitakt release feels different. Don’t recall the same level of nasty bugginess in the Rytm release either, I don’t have one but just based on following the release on here.
Elektron should:
A) make a statement about Midi status
B) clarify the obvious confusion around Sounds v Samples included as “Factory Presets”
C) urgently address critical bugs that cause hardware freezes, audio glitches and high pitched whines that frighten my neighbours dog
They probably won’t though because my mate Liam says they’re a bunch of fkin twts - but so is he, so don’t take it the wrong way 
Edit: Sounds v Samples from the manual description it seems like many of us have no Sounds but plenty of Samples:
When performing a factory reset on the Digitakt, it will overwrite and re-initialize the active RAM project (in- cluding all pattern, sound pool and global data). The +Drive project slot 1 will be overwritten and re-initialized with factory preset patterns, sounds and settings. Sound bank A will be overwritten with the factory sounds.
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I am having trouble commiting my passion to anything more than fiddling at the moment, I want to get creative but hate loosing what I have made, since another factory reset is highly likely and there is nowhere to back up saved patterns I have been working on presets only. How long will it be before backing up data is possible?.
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i totally agree, its telling !
I bought a Behringer DeepMind 12 when it was released at the end of December. When I got it, it was inside a white placeholder box, no quick start manual, not even the serial number format had been finalized and hence it had a placeholder serial nr.
The above things were all done on the next shipment a few weeks later.
The actual synth, the software, was in a state where you just scratched your head wondering where Behringer/Midas head’s was at, releasing that thing. It was in such a bad state, had so many issues and bugs, that it permanently damaged one of my ears (severely so). Random spontaneous loud sound bursts, on a synth with a filter capable of cutting anyone’s head off, and a multitude of other major issues and bugs. I had 2 units briefly, some changes internally had happened between production rounds.
Hihats and other high freq sounds are hardpanned to my left because Uli Behringer pushed that heap of trash out way too early. I can’t work with sounds any longer, other the occasional tinkering around at home. I have since gained new found respect for all other manufacturers. There are issues and there are issues…
By the way, I still have a DeepMind 12 inside a closet. I’m thinking about selling it obviously, but there is a large rattling fan inside it (there are 2 fans in this thing), plus I kinda wanna do a stress-test video, YouTube style…
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The lack of communication has really put a bad taste in my mouth with these guys and I’ve sold Rytm, Octatrack and I’ll never buy anything from them again. I have other peers who are all doing very well in the music business who feel the same way. Their attitudes have gotten much bigger than the quality of their products.
Steve
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Pretty sure that other companies having better QC & Bug disclosure/squashing than Behringer is nigh on an industry given 
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I’m almost certain every other company has better QC than Behringer.
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New components, new integrated circuits, new microcontrollers.
It’s easy to write and debug high level software if you have fancy debuggers. It’s completely different story on the low level embedded systems. You may have code that works on emulator (if they have) but it sometimes does not work on real hardware for some unknown reason. It takes time to resolve those kind of bugs.
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Right out of the box it just keeps freezing. It seems Everyone elses is doing the same thing, I dont understand why they even started selling them.
Im returning my Digitakt very soon.
…please dont tell me to upgrade the OS or any other nonsense (already did, no effect) Maybe if it was just a few people reporting this bug. Its not a bug though They All cant handle what there supposed to do. Feels like Ive been used.
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Been rocking mine for the last 5 hours no problems. I had one hang up in the first 5 minutes, just unplugged the external midi sync and it was smooth sailing from there. Haven’t even upgraded to 1.02 yet
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I guess Im one of the lucky ones then. no probs here.
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It’s all a bit curious … I haven’t had any crashes, but I am not using midi sync at the moment while I learn the unit (but will definitely require midi sync once I start using the DT properly as part of my rig). Was wondering today whether it has anything to do with OS upgrade method - ie. USB vs MIDI over TM-1. I updated to 1.02 with the TM-1; veeeery slow but perhaps more accurate?!?
I can’t speak for 1.02, but in1.01 it seems any midi or USB connections make it prone to instability. Just arrived a few hours ago, so I’ve been using it stand alone to learn it’s ins and outs
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That’s the common thing I’m noticing as well. The whole MIDI debacle
No. There’s checksums and stuff in place. Firmware upgrade either works or it doesn’t. They’d be doing nothing but unbrick messed up machines if there weren’t some safety measures.
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