Venting : someone stole one of my sample pack to sell it as his own

[Ryan]

“Oops”

10 out of 10 response. Will support creme at a future date

[Kegeratorz]

At least it wasn’t “Sorry dude, can I offer you a free sound pack?”

[Jeanne]

@Ryan

For what its worth, here is a far better response you could have said:

Ryan, you are giving $10000 lawyer advise for free?

[Ryan]

Its fine. I copywrited it

[HoldMyBeer]

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[alechko]

@Kegeratorz

Cool, now we can go back to debating copyrights endlessly!

actually…

Sample Clearance

Hey all, Are there any users that have experienced clearing a sample for play/sale/distribution that would want to help contribute to a thread focusing on the topic? The aim would be to help out fellow elektronauts that may find themselves in a similar scenario. Also, it would be interesting to hear about personal business experiences, both good/bad, that may have occurred in the past, and could potentially help others navigate in their musical endeavors. For instance, is it better to go thro…

[Doug]

You know it might not be such a bad idea to hit up someone like Weaver Beats who covers synth related gossip and what not on YouTube. I doubt that this is the first time this happened, especially if there were demos from Red Means Recording videos.

Also, I don’t understand this scam. A lot of people love the CremaCafe skins. Are the stolen sample packs outselling the things they actually make?

[Dr.K]

Just out of interest, do people make serious money selling sample packs like these? Or is it just a few bugs here and there? And i don’t mean samples from mars or some other big sites.

[alechko]

[pumpkin_head]

I am wondering if samples can be protected like songs, is there an equivalent to BMI /ASCAP/ SACEM / name your PRO , but for samples ?

[generalkustard]

OK, lets say a man rears a beautiful cat and people come from miles around to see it and he charges a nominal fee to come and view it then another guy comes along, pays the fee, takes a photograph of the cat and sells copies of that picture for a profit is he doing anything wrong? Does the owner of the cat have any right to stop anyone from taking pictures of his cat? Is he actually losing anything from the other mans gain?

[alechko]

I’ve seen someone reply (can’t remember who was it) recently that they made a sample pack and that it made them more money then all of their bandcamp/spotify etc. plays/sales, not sure how many in numbers but looks like you can make good money from it…

EDIT: found it! yeah a sample pack can sell!

Your Commitment to Releasing Something in 2023

I released my first sample pack / Digitakt Project this year and I’m working on some Tracks too. With the DT pack alone I made more €$ than all my streams and sales in the last 10 Years.

[Ryan]

@generalkustard

Does the owner of the cat have any right to stop anyone from taking pictures of his cat?

If he or she’s running an attraction, the he or she has the right to determine the behavioral requirements of attending that attraction.

Such as the common one of “no phones, no photography”

[MichaalHell]

@Doug

A lot of people love the CremaCafe skins

Exactly, why would you tarnish your reputation like that!?

[Dr.K]

Interesting. Although we don’t know how much or little the person made with streams and sales before. But i’m enticed to resample, er record my own sample packs in the future.

[Ryan]

@MichaalHell

Exactly, why would you tarnish your reputation like that!?

YouTubers on here. Here is your chance for clicks while promoting OPs sample pack.

Ready? Break!

[generalkustard]

I could have added more detail to make a better analogy but I’m quite tired. So lets say people are permitted to take photographs and he is selling pics himself. This other guy takes his own pics and sells them and makes a profit… has the cat owner actually lost anything?

[Ryan]

Its not possible to know

[darenager]

If someone went onto your bandcamp, downloaded the songs and released them for sale as their own, would you mind? That is a better analogy.

[generalkustard]

I wouldn’t be happy about it but I think it would be relatively easy to prove that they were my songs. Samples and sounds is a bit more of a grey area. recording a sound is hardly the same as writing a song. I know there are arguments in favour of copyright but I feel that in the majority of cases more is lost to the public at large than is gained from the enforcement of copyright “law” or statutes and what has happened with youtube is a perfect example of how we have all lost something and only a few have gained but we are all poorer because of it.