Trigger the Roland SH 101

For anyone still struggling, please note that the SH-101 likes a VERY loud trigger. Here’s a quick/simple way to get a solid triggered signal from the Octa to the 101:

  1. Run a cable from one of the Octatrack’s CUE OUT to the SH-101’s GATE IN.

  2. Create a Static Machine on an empty track, load a 909 Rimshot/trigger signal sample onto it and route to CUE OUTPUT by pressing FUNCTION + CUE.

  3. Use the Octatrack’s compressor on this track, to increase the gain/shape the transient (I use medium ATK, fast REL, RAT at about 9 o’clock, makeup GAIN to taste & MIX at 100%) of the sample being sent to the SH-101, until the triggering is solid and consistent.

Works well & lots of fun!

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Use this instead , it works great with octatrack !!!

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I know its a couple years down the line, but i cant seem to get it to work with the SH01a with any sample/compressor settings from the octatrack.

The sh01a doesnt trigger the notes as they are programmed, eg sometimes it triggers 2 notes, when it should only trigger one.

I use a mono patch cable from the Cue Out of the Octatrack to the ext clk in at the Sh01a.

Curious to hear how anybody got it to work (incl compressor settings) and which sample they used for this (eg link to a sample would be appreciated)

With SH01a? Is there a specific reason that you aren’t using midi?

SH-101 has a reason that you’d need to send triggers, SH01a doesn’t.

At least as far as I’m aware.

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Fair question. It does have Midi, but I like to split pitch from trig. That way I can enter the notes without thinking about timing and after creating the trigs.
If any other ways to do this with Midi, I’m open to hear it as well.

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I see what you’re saying and while it wouldn’t be quite the same, if I wanted to do that with midi I would probably use the elektron sequencer and program my trigs using all the same note for ease of input and then turn quantize to the strongest setting and then just overdub my desired notes quantized in live record mode, either one at a time or however it’s comfortable for you.

Just to explain a little better, let’s say your track note is the equivalent of middle C or whichever note you want to start with. Program your trig pattern into the octatrack in the same way as how you’d program the pattern of rim shots or whatever you intended to use to trigger the Roland note sequence.

Now that the single notes are in the sequencer you could leave it at the same tempo if you’re comfortable with that, or you could turn the tempo down you know, 10 bpm or whatever seems like the timing is slow enough so you could enter all the notes in one go if you wanted to, or you could do it one note per cycle through the loop or whatever.

As long as you have quantize enabled and you’re in record mode, it will continue to play your trig sequence which will be currently all the same note, but the elektron sequencer won’t double up the notes (it’s not polyphonic after all), it will replace a note with any note played over the top of it. I’m assuming you’re using a midi keyboard for this, but if not, you could use chromatic mode on the OT.

Just play the note you want, try and hit the desired keyboard note close to when the trig hits, and quantize should replace that note in the sequencer with your note. Do that until all your notes are entered into the sequence.

If you found it distracting to do this with overdubbing notes, i can see maybe doing it with 2 tracks, something like a rimshot or a clap on an audio track or basically something that acts like a guide for the trig input (you could also adjust the tempo down 10 bpm or whatever to make input more simplified) and then a midi track for the SH01A using the same concept of quantized input entering one or 2 notes at a time, and with the click track as a guide it will both tell you if the note input is off grid and it will also prompt you to enter the notes in time with the trig sequence.

I realize this is significantly different than the method you described but it’s at least an option because if it were me I’d be trying to avoid using the SH01A sequencer altogether as it’s a complicated way of getting from point A to point B using the OT sequencer sending audio trigs just to trigger the notes on the SH sequencer.

I mean it’s a workflow, I get that, but it seems like unless you’re really committed to that cv / gate workflow, there are equally complicated or possibly less complicated ways to go about this with midi. I literally just thought of one thing, I’m sure if I thought about it long enough I could come up with something else but my point is just that if you can’t easily accomplish what you wanted to do and use audio trigs to trigger the pattern on the SH sequencer, then you’re already putting in more work than whatever you intended.

If you still need help getting the audio triggers to work you could try an 808 trigger or a sharp rim shot and you want to make sure you’re connecting to the trig input via mono TS cable as you’ve been doing.

SH101 is actually a bit picky about what kind of trigger you send it but I think SH01a should be a bit less fickle, however you’d just have to try it. Triggering 2 notes sounds to me like the sample being used as a trig isn’t fast enough, like it must have a lingering transient or something. You could test this by slowing down the bpm and sending the trigger sequence and see if it plays as desired, then slowly ramp up the bpm until the double triggers start and adjust the amp envelope or compressor settings until it triggers only the single notes again and then adjust the tempo up one more time and see if it stays in the pocket or not.

Anyways sorry that’s all the time I have to think about it right now but we can touch back on this later if you’re still having issues.

Good luck

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Thanks a lot for the very extensive reply :wink: I will give it a go like this, but I’m more into the “old school” way of sequencing notes in a synth. Anyway, i will also try different ways of triggering with different sounds/transients/cables etc.
Have a good one!

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First off, can the SH01a sequencer be trigged from external clock/trigger ? (Like the OG)

If it can-

Does it have clock out?
If so sample it.
Normalise the sample. Then shove that back in the clock in.

Now you can trig the SH01a sequencer from the OT.

I did that with the DFAM. Worked just fine.

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I can extend it further if you prefer :wink:

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you’re not alone. I love doing the same thing with the SH101. always gives unexpected results. I just play a handful of notes into its sequencer, then add random triggers in my main sequencer (Cirklon) and move them around until it sounds good.

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It’s also possible to do this entirely in software with tal-bassline , you can program notes on the internal sequencer and trigger the timing with midi in
Unsure if it works with lush / sh01a on Roland cloud / s-1 .
I think behringer ms-1 and donner can do it but I’m unsure … my ms-1 has been in the box a long time

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