Trigger samples/audio tracks with external controller - velocity?

Elektron Gear Octatrack
#8

To do what ?

#10

How does the recorded MIDI track sequence get sent to the Audio track?

#11

As you did apparently, with a midi cable. :slight_smile:

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#12

I guess you missed that thread :
Auto channel midi mapping

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#13

This is a long thread to read through. But can the OT now receive and record velocity sensitive notes from pad- and keyboard controllers?
Can’t remember if it already did it, and that I just couldn’t figure out how to do it :thinking:

Octatrack 1.40
#14

I put you on the right discussion.

So: OT can record velocity on MIDI tracks.
On Audio tracks it’s a bit more complicated than that, you would have to redirect velocity to the CC corresponding to audio tracks volume, as far as I can understand.

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#15

Thanks.

Aarh yeah okay, sounds like a pain.

#16

A midi processor. Can even be used to record sample length.

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#17

Just edited it

#18

Reading through this topic it looks like the mapping of velocity to the OT track volume CC would have to be done on the outside and not in the OT. Is that the case?

I am reeling from discovering that the OT does not accept velocity to trigger samples from an external source. This is a very basic functionality for any sampler and is an outrageous limitation on the OT, particularly for a machine of this caliber. I get that most people will be sequencing from the OT itself, but not responding to velocity is just horrible…

Is there some other workaround for this that does not involve spending another $300 on a Bome Box and software? Is there any plan to update the OT with this most basic thing that basically every other sampler in the world going back decades supports?

#19

You forgot that you can’t record note length. There is also a midi processing workaround for that.
An RK002 is probably around 50$.

Elektron prefer more complex updates with new features. :content:

You can complain here if you want, but I think it would be more efficient to ask Elektron directly :
feature-request@elektron.se

Personally I didn’t wait hypothetical updates, and used midi processors to play slices with a keyboard. They made an update for that !

I do wish an update for velocity, note length recording, but if it would be only one, it would be to increase RLEN defined recording length, limited to 64 steps.

Nowerdays I use OT for its strengths, and don’t expect it to be an MPC (I had before) anymore.

#20

Thanks for the response. I don’t care about note length. I just want the sampler to respond to velocity. If I want stereo samples, I guess I will just run them out of my computer (which I am trying to get away from using hardware in the first place). A $1500 sampler that doesn’t respond to velocity is ridiculous.

Thanks again.

#21

Since its release, 2010.
Weird for sure, midi implementation being pretty good.

#22

Yeah - I did not think to research whether the OT would accept velocity because every other sampler on the planet does. Anyway…

#23

Would it be possible to play slices with velocity from an push 3 standalone? Or an mpc live? Are they able to send the right midi cc messages or would it need something like the mentioned cable for that?

#24

LaunchPad Pro should be able to do it with the right script. @qlamerand may shime in…

Once again it is easy to program with most of midi processors…

#25

Does this work via usb too or do u need to use the midi in?

#26

No, OT USB is just for storage ( CF Card). No midi/audio.

Midi DIN In.

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#27

Thanks for the fast reply. Very good to know i got a ot on the way and probably wanna do some fingerdrumming and play samplechops so maybe i gonna get a cheap midipad or try to use the midi contol mode on my live 2. Are u using a midi controller or keyboard for that kind of stuff?

#28

I used a Taktile 49, having pads, with an Event Processor Plus as midi processor.
Now I have an HPD20 so I may use it when I’ll have time…