Torso T1 Algorithmic Sequencer

i dont actually save much already on the t-1. i mean i save my stuff, but i never really go back to it.

all midi just gets recorded in a piano roll or whatever, in whatever software, just for easier future composition, or just archival purposes.

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i really loved this device when i had it

Don’t save anything too. Just a scapbook or an improvisation tool.
If i find something that must be saved, i have other sequencers in wich i could. Futhermore, that will permit to improve the composition and eventualy finish it (thing that i rarely do :rofl:)

Hi guys, i got a T1 and i tried to use it in fl studio but i run into a problem.
FL studio receives midi from T1 over all midi channels. It doesn’t matter to what channel i set a pad, the current selected instrument in FL receives the midi. Only when i de-select all midi channels for that pad FL does not receive midi.

For example: Pad 1 sends midi over channel 3. My instrument in FL receives midi over channel 2. When the instrument is selected (e.g. left click on the instrument in channel rack), it still receives midi from pad 1.

I tried everything i could think of in FL, all possible midi routings midi settings etc. Did someome experience the same?

Did try to Google, but couldn’t find a fix… Ableton link sync latency…

Can it be so that the clock latency between the ableton and T-1 is -100ms when using link? Am I doing something wrong? T1 one and Ableton in same T1 hospot. Only Track midi is enabled both in and out. I only noticed the latency when I started adding midi tracks in ableton.

Also feels like the sync is drifting… I have the latest firmware.

i don’t know FL studio but it sounds like you have FL studio individual channels set to “Omni” which means it will receive from all midi channels.

find someone who knows FL really well. Have you used FL with any midi controller? probably a similar set up process for setting up the T1. wish i could help but i don’t have experience w/FL

That’s what it sounds like to me as well. Ableton works similarly. You use any midi controller to send midi to the active/armed track regardless of channel unless you set the filter

Right. Purchased this last autumn and promptly left the country, leaving it behind for 2 months. Finally getting around to it. What a learning curve. I feel pretty dumb.

Ultimately—and this is only my opinion—do not take this thing out of the house unless you can operate it in your sleep.

In a live setting, with a couple of pints in, this thing will punish you harder than the Octatrack if you overreach your proficiency with the instrument. (Admittedly with the T-1 at least you can start from nothing without really having to build “patterns” maybe?)

The Elektron sequencer isn’t “algorithmic” but I can CLACK CLACK CLACK in some trigs and often (very likely more often) it’s just as musical without needing to unpack bespoke parameterised interpretations of terms like “time,” “division,” “repeats,” and “groove” which I thought I understood well enough already.

Yeah, it’s a weird one. Definitely a keeper for me because the build quality is great and it’s very deep. Sometimes I just wanna CLACK CLACK CLACK those trigs, know what I mean?

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Yep…if I had a T1 again, I’d also have some other sequencer. I love the T1 but not as my only sequencer. I’d also like a tracker and an OT and an MPC…no money, thank heavens.

BT doesn’t work for sequencers. You are pretty safe using BT for transfering notes and some CC from / to a single synth, but trying to send the whole multitrack output chokes up the BT and a lot of messages is dropped, out of sync etc.

Works fine. Been doing it for years. Little quantize setting in the receiving end (64th notes, or so), they end up right on the grid fine.
Even use it live. I mostly screw with iOS, which has a locked BT interval of about 11ms (around 9 on Mac). If you use an adapter, on the host side, you’ll buypass this locked interval in the OS and I’m getting a measurable 4ms now w/ CME stuff on each end. But you absolutely have to have it on BOTH ends.

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Now, i know and use 80% of Torso functionalities.

Enough fluent with the box to begin to step back and make some comment about it.

First, i didn’t find the learning curve nor long nor complicated. I must precise that i watched carefully all torso tuto i found . That makes the 90% of the job.
Just went in the manual for more precisions or details, now i use it more often to really catch subtilities of gear capabilities.

Then, it’s not so complicated or not asking a lot of muscle memory.

The UI is whell thought, so use is prety easy. The colors are not the more usefull or necessary thing to memorize, in my case. Labels and practice are enough after few weeks.

I thought T1 would be perfect for techno improvising, but, on this point, a bit deceptive for the moment.
I intended to use Torso with my AR and A4, in view to be focused on only one instead of two sequencers, but at this point of my journey, i’m more efficient with hands directly on AR and A4. The training, first and maybe my techno practice also. I realised how much my techno is more percussive than melodic and i mainly sound design my techno to make it evolve, more than playing or changing notes. I’m those guy who think that two harmonic notes are enough to play techno… and three a bit to much :sweat_smile:
Then, with this practice, Torso appears less pertinent to me for percussive duties, knowing that i mainly use 8 step patterns.
One could argue that the euclidian torso mode is usefull. Yes, indeed, but AR does.
Maybe you could give me more pertinent way of using it, i’m open to learning.

I must say that A4 haven’t (for the moment, :pray:) euclidian sequencer, so for percussive material programmation, T1 is cool, but not as efficient as my fingers on the A4 trigs in 8 step sequence :blush:

But, must admit that the possibilities to produce drastics modifications of the whole percussive tracks of AR and A4 instantly plus “Temp” parametring are very powerfull. Very appreciate for improvised techno variations.
That is the main reason to still persevere for few weeks in view to see if more practice brings same efficience than hands directly on AR A4.
Must admit too, i haven’t use cc to perf, that could maybe be a powerfull tool :thinking:

Whatever, the Torso does’nt provides lot of tools to sound design on AR or A4, except for velocity with a proper programmation of velo mod on Elektron boxes :yum:

Must say another thing. When it came to “non elenacortes” techno music, Torso honors all its very promising algo-euclidean-progressions-and-variations capabilities.
I love it so much with polysynth and modular too. What a lot of fun, thank you Torso.

I you dear fellows are not against teach me few things, i would really appreciate

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This

will change after this

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Could need some help, here’s the scenario:
The ST fx Block Drive (cc15) seems to only be controlable on the fx control channel set on the ST.
But I want to be able to reach that parameter on all tracks of the T1.

So I thought I was clever and assigned multiple midi channels per track.
Like that: Set the fx control channel on the ST to 8. Then set track one of the T1 to midi channel 1+8.
Alas it doesn’t work :confused: T1 only seems to send the ccs to the last midi channel added to the track, when multiple are selected.

Maybe it’s just not possible? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

That sounds like a bug. Maybe email/ask in the discord? Assuming it is, it should hopefully be small enough to get fixed in the first post-S4 release.

Did post in the discord.
Could you maybe double check/confirm for me?
Just try to send ccs to multiple midi channels via a single T1 track…

Another user in discord confirmed the same issue. Seems to be a bug…

What firmware version? Stable or Beta?

Beta.

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The same behavior as in firmware 2.0.14. Tracks send CC messages only on the lowest MIDI channel number (if enabled on more than one channel).

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