Torso T1 Algorithmic Sequencer

@ vasidudu and @ sid6581
both of you had the OXI One and now the T-1. What was the reason for you?

I never jelled with the oxi-one personally. It’s a really beautifully made and engineered machine, but the interface was a little overwhelming for me at times, and the generative stuff not as good as the T1’s. It simply became surplus to what I needed so I let it go to mate who’s making much better use of it than I ever did.

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Through painful experience, I would never try to learn two machines at the same time again. I’m a bit thick but learning 2 things at once takes me more than twice the time.

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No. Do one at a time.

I still have my Oxi One but feel the same way. It’s got a lot of utility but I find that’s at the cost of immediacy. I am leaning towards selling but am not rushing into any decisions.

I won’t at all say I have the Torso all figured out but I will say that I really enjoy it and have found it fast to get going. There are button combos, but very few unlabelled button combos, which helps. There are a few more complex things I wish it did but there are workarounds thanks to Cycles. It rewards exploration.

I am not 100% sequencing as I also play Linnstrument, so perhaps a different kind of user than others on this thread.

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I had the Oxi twice and understand it’s power but too many button combos was rough for me. I had the Torso twice and it was sooooooooo hard getting rid of it the 2nd time. I dont play keyboard so it was nice having a device that kind of played itself…and it is just such a unique piece of equipment. If I had extra cash I would definitely have one again.

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Maybe, or maybe not. Don’t know the Oxi learning curve but in my experience the T-1 requires some motivation and good practice to establish muscle memory, as is usually required to learn a real instrument. Personally, I have always the manual at hand to immediately recall less frequently used functions, especially if returning to T-1 after a while spent with other gear. Memory fades.
FWIW I had to dedicate valuable time learning every other sequencer I owned like Roland MC-500, Yamaha QX5, Beatstep Pro or Doepfer MAQ16/3. The difference to me is the T-1 is the most creative machine of the bunch.

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No :slight_smile:
Sorry if my previous post was not clear: I did mention I did not have experience with Beatstep. I just mentioned the Oxi seemed too deep and complicated with too many options for me :slight_smile:

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Sry, haven’t read the whole thread but can I do my own chords sequencing with T-1?

Sure you can.

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I sold everything besides my DT and got a Push 3 which is a really good sequencer for external gear and with the right m4l devices you could replicate analog sequencers with a midi controller :slightly_smiling_face: !

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Yeah theres no screen, but the form factor of this thing is the best of any gear I have.
I’m using it to generate pretty random music with my model:cycles, I’ll post some in the “post your music” threads. Love this thing so far, I dont even know how to use it.

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Can you all compare this to a software sequencer? I’m not sure that there is one like it, and I’m not trying to suggest there is. But I am just curious if I’d like the results it gives. I currently am using stepic. Not sure how that compares. But anything that gives an idea what it can do would be helpful.

This t1 has been on my gas list forever but I am always unsure if it will work for my style - underground house and techno.

Haven’t found anything like it - I started work on cloning it in max/msp a while back but got stuck because the manual is a bit vague on how certain functions operate

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Thats so awesome. Rare when hardware can not be replicated in software. Makes it super intriguing. Maybe there may be a sale during christmas at a dealer for one.

I tried in VCV rack. I needed a 16 track Euclidean sequencer that had editable parameters for number of steps, number of pulses, sequence offset, step microtiming, and velocity.

Then each had to have its own clock divider, as well as a system for ratcheting/retriggers, and probability for all those triggers.

Then each one needed to have like two different note sequencer, plus quantizers.

Then every single parameter needed to have a Turing machine attached to it, so something like 230 Turing machines?

Then you needed to have another 230 Turning machines and CV sequencers to do the MIDI CC automation it does.

I didn’t even bother with the live MIDI FX.

Then you had to find a reasonable way to control all of those parameters.

Honestly, I just gave up. It was too much stuff packed into too good an interface. It might be possible to approach software that makes close to what it makes, but not in any way that’s as immediate and usable.

The only thing I’ve used that comes close is maybe Numerology, and that isn’t nearly as quick or fun to use.

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Does anybody know how or if this can do something like a probability parameter per note, similar to a model:cycles?

What’s the best price you all have landed one for? They are all hovering around the $500 mark currently if you factor in taxes.

Edit - found one for $460 shipped.

I am reading through this thread since I was able to get a T-1. Should have it soon.

I was thinking of these use cases, let me know if I am off on anything.

Sequence the DT and DN together and record the results into overbridge. I feel like this could be pretty amazing. Read that there were some sync issues with DAWs (but everything has that) so I am thinking I will send MIDI out to the DT and thru to the DN per the Synthdawg setup in the manual. Then I can record into the DAW via overbridge. The trick here, I think, is to turn the sync off in overbridge. Just match the DAW BPM to the T-1, hit record and then start the T-1. I am guessing that the T-1 as master clock and unsynced to the DAW should deliver a solid clock? If so this is an easy way to record via OB and then just clip out the empty space to start and line up the audio to the grid when complete.

I am not sure how much I would sequence on the t-1 compared to the digitakt, but I think I can combine the sequencers possibly. Use 1 track with the DT sequencer and sequence another with the t-1.

Not sure how you all set up the DN in sync, would you just change the 1-4 tracks toMIDI channels 9-12? I also have an esq1 I can set to channel 16 or so and use that for pads.

Other thing I want to do is take a vocal and chop it up in the DT. Then instead of using the random locks trick on the DT, sequence it with the T-1 and see what comes out of that. Any of you all try this? I do it a lot with loops and vocals because you can get some really cool ideas this way.

I also want to do all this stuff in the box in Bitwig and just substitute the DT and DN and Esq1 for sampler tracks and soft synths.

I make house music so I am typically looking to add interesting rhtyms over a 4x4 or come up with a nice broken beat with an off beat hat holding things down. Harmonically I like to make pads and chords that move in key and I think that harmony function when you can dial in how many notes change could be awesome for this. Also I sometimes use sampled stabs and like to come up with unique rhythms and grooves for those instead of just punching them into a step sequencer. And same with vocal/loop chops as I mentioned earlier.

Anyway that is my plan for it. I am currently reading the new manual and it looks like I can acomplish all of this, but always interested in what people who know this device have to say.

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I’ve done that in Ableton simpler… Really cool!

I tried to record the midi on Ableton, but it wasn’t recorded right…kind of latence…maybe i’m doing it wrong… didn’t find a solution…any hint somebody?

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