Torso Electronics S-4 (sculpting sampler)

Let us hear how this glitches out drums.

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I think he’s trying to say it can act like Overbridge and send multi-track audio via USB, not that you have to be connected to USB to use the machine or whatever.

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Yeah I’m not positive anymore was a while since I looked at the old specs that were up but I think originally at least you can only record a single track at a time? I think you can do bounce down though? But yeah you can hook up a usb interface to get more inputs outputs. I think at the end of the day it’s designed to do many things not sure if they were thinking this will be a modern porta. I suppose in some ways it probably has added flexibility give you can play it with a sequencer and you kind of need 2 porta studios to really get into deeper arranging with tape. Maybe with a interface + mixer and T4 you can play 3 parts into the mixer and bounce it to a master track and then over dub or sound on sound and then cue a new start point to record and rinse and repeat to build out a longer track. Maybe you can do all that internally in a satisfactory way. But yeah I think I need to see it in the wild before I’m certain if it will really make sense for that approach. If it does I will be pretty tempted.

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and not already Venetian snared aphexed out amen broke to death either… simple grooves that show clearly what the S-4 is doing to them

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This would be excellent to see.

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1200 posts, many months later and a handful of vague teasers and Oora demos and I still really haven’t a clue about how this all works. Probably being dense but this is a roll out for the ages. Really can’t wait for these to be out in the wild so I can see users crack this wide open and give me an idea of the potential.

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It’s basically this -

That’s what one track can do and there’s four tracks of that, each with their own set of FX and modulators. And then there’s other various little features and modes yet to added, like the scene and perform modes.

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I guess, I was one of the first of to pre-order the item. With the poor knowledge I have now, I guess I would not have ordered at all. So it is all very exciting to what will happen, when we open up the box of the Pandora… :upside_down_face:

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Order immediatly at the announce as with T1, no interest in discussions/speculations, no interest in demos (Torso has never been really good at it), having begun with reel tape, I am just super happy to have a futuristic 4 tapes + extras portable machine! 2 weeks and it will be! My garden is awaiting us!

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Interesting sound not sure how l would use this in creating a song l have a few groove boxes and l’m always looking for new sounds. In this example how would you know the key it’s in and how would you add drums, vocals and melodics. How do you create a loop and make it sound perfect without any glitches. This is all new to me is it just a drone type of device or can you use it to make songs without struggling.

I’ve a feeling you’d need to be into modern radiohead territory to bring this into singersongwriter styles. Certainly how I’m thinking of it - a bit of avantgarde polish and diversion (to enhance my JPRG composing mindset).

Then I could be very wrong - You can record of course, so one track is your guitar, one is ext midi sequenced vocal takes and other tracks might be sampled lead, bass, drums etc, with some fx sparkle. So maybe it doesn’t have to be a vast cinematic soundscape to be a useful device in that way. Hard to tell if this is the box for that …

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I have been following this thread out of curiosity… and Intrigue, cause I like sample manglers, and My OT’s could use a dynamic counterpart .
But honestly so far seems like much ado about not much. A mediocre granular VST in a box.
Hopefully I eat my words, the concept is interesting. Just want to hear it do something other than washed out reverb glitch ambiences followed up with a chorus of ooohhh… ahhh…, and so what else does it do???.

Definitely a bizarre marketing strategy.

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I preordered and had the same thought at first about it; just being a mediocre granular vst.
But think it could be much more with the Scene and Performance functionality implemented.
I think there lies the power and opportunity of being a great hardware instrument.
What if the Scenes makes it possible to flick through parameters and samplepresets?
Also the plans the developers did share on the discord feel very promising. Like having crossmodulation between tracks with envelopefollowers or having a modulator pick samples from a folder.

The immediately assignable modulator setup combined with the dynamic UI is the star of the show with this device I think, and is what sets this apart from other hardware samplers. If they implement cross-modulation between tracks as you say I think that will be huge, it’s something I feel is missing on the OT and on devices in general. Letting tracks modulate each other instantly gives you all kinds of creative sidechain utility.

My main concern is also the granular department. I hope it is at the level of the GR-1 or Arbhar. But apart from that, I don’t understand comments like it might just be a mediocre granular vst in a box. Yes Torso definitely needs a turnaround in terms of product presentation but the website and the 2 Oora videos are enough for me to realise that the box is pretty awesome. I think Oora described it very well in his last video with the sentence ā€œIt can be anything you wantā€. It can be a multi FX, a looper, a sample player, a 4 layer poly sampler and so on. The range of applications seems to me to be very diverse. One of the main differences to Elektron for me is the fact that the 4 modulators can modulate any number of destinations simultaneously. That’s one of the things I think Elektron has messed up. If I have 2 LFOs I can modulate exactly 2 parameters :frowning:

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S-4 and DTII are going to be quite a pair!

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Dont we need a versus-thread?

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Thinking about this with Freds Lab Manatee and/or Twisted Electrons Blastbeats… So much good stuff right now!

As for the DT 2 comparison, I think they’re aiming a long ways away from each other. It all depends on what inspires you.

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Not sure how many people have already spotted these but someone in the Discord saw there’s now sound demos on the S-4 web page. Few interesting bits that don’t lean on shimmer reverbs and delays in there

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Cool stuff, not just the reverb-drenched stuff in their demo videos. More textures and even some beats. Still more sound art than music I guess but still interesting examples.

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