The ultimate routing concept:
Tonverk is pretty powerfull but the one input make things a littlebit complicated.
My routing now is this: Digitone 2 to Tonverk to Digitakt 2 to Analog Heat +FX. This way I can sample Digitone 2 to Tonverk and also that two to Digitakt 2. However I would like to sometimes make random locks chopped sequence on Digitakt 2 and send it to Tonverk to some rich and experimental effect processing and then sending it back to Digitakt 2 to resample and chop it up again. What do you think what would be the best solution for that? Bc problems quickly comes, for example like which one you monitoring, you need to plug out and in your headphones to listen this or that device, we also dont want feedback loop, etc, so yeah, such a headache.
My theory for a semi dawless solution would be this: getting a Motu ultralite mk5, connecting everything to that, and using the internal patching to decide which signal goes where, and this way its easy to switch up the routing inside the motu for “seamless” experience, I would need to use my macbook for like 10 seconds.
So using that interface amazing routing possibilites can be the amazing combo for Tonverk.
What do you think about that, do you have idea for a better solution, please let me know, thank you Elektronauts!!
Sidenote: Im all into minimalistic and smallest portable solutions in the best sound quality as possible, so I dont want to get a mixer
this is my theory, and make routing presets when Im chainging how I want to sample. This way I can sample anything (even Ableton and VST synths for multisample and everything), still keeping my main output in check and no feedback loops.
IMO the tonverk is a sampler that makes more sense when you have a workflow down and know why you would need it. It’s definitely not a good first sampler or for a newer producer who doesn’t know what they want yet. Not saying that’s you, but the Digitakt is a lot safer if you are not sure what to get yet.
This is me–I’m a sampler novice. Although I’ve spent years in synth-land and have a lot of experience with Elektron boxes. The Tonverk is my first hardware sampler, and I’m loving it.
Day 1 with the TV, my first sampler and Elektron box. I had a blast playing around with it. Created a multisample of one of my software plugins (itself a deep sample), and played around with the factory sounds. All good so far (though I did see the multisample latency issues).
P-locks are still a bit of a mystery. Do they/should they work with subtracks and subtract velocity? If so, I’m doing something wrong and it’s time to go back to the manual.
They work with sub tracks , just bae in mind that they share the same effects , so any parameters they share are done on the ‘supertrack’ which is just terminology for the track the sub tracks are on.
So track select this rather than the sub tracks , it is shown as three squares above the number of the track on the left of your screen.
Personally I’m using them like sub groups like you would have on a mixer. There are obviously lots of ways to use them.
But yes plocks work for individual parameters of each sub track and shared parameters on the supertrack
Just rehearsed the shit out of a live set I’m doing with the TV/DN II tonight…pretty scary as I’m still making silly mistakes learning muscle memory on the TV…gonna do it anyway
I’m debating getting it off my rack as the TV more or less replaces it for me. I get that FM in the DNii and it’s features are great, but it (and the ST) didn’t scratch the itch for me like the TV.
ive recorded round-robin multi samples of all my favourite serum, phaseplant and spire patches and loaded them onto my TV and they sound pretty much indistinguishable. I usually go for 3 round-robins. I used Logic Pro’s Autosampler.
An alternative is to turn off as many fx when you sample, and then add them back in on the TV - but it usually won’t sound the same.
Fair enough! It’s still too soon for me to judge those sorts of things. I have a DNII and an ST and debated which to put on the live board. My decision to go with the DN II was somewhat arbitrary, but I’m liking it for this set I’m doing tonight. It’s not sync’d to theTV at all…I’ve just made some atmospheric patches to use for breaks, transitions, etc and bring em in for color. I’m sure I could easily just use the TV for the same purpose, but I know the DN II pretty well and barely know the TV at all, so that’s part of it. I dunno. It sounds pretty cool, but I understand I’m way under utilizing both machines at the moment
That’s a delightfully succinct way of putting it and perfectly describes how I think I’ll likely use the multisample mode. I’m much more interested in using the ‘velocity axis’ for timbral variation. I’m curious about how it plays back samples across velocity layers. In the traditional ‘velocity = volume’ then I would guess it needs to crossfade between samples so that if you’ve got 4 velocity layers you don’t just get 4 steppy levels of volume. So, if my theory is right then it could potentially lead to quite an interesting instrument especially if the ‘velocity axis’ has non-linear timbral shifts.
I’ve got plenty of other things to explore on the TV in the meantime so I’ll probably wait until after the bug fixes come in before experimenting. But fun times await!
I see your point, it made me realize how many features TV has and also you showed me a wider point of view to approach the unit and to crack on making music and not bothering about if my decision was correct or not. Hopefully you also enjoy a lot making your music/sound design on your TV… many thanks for your long and thoughtful reply!
