Another one for external audio assigned to a track :
Use a Grainer track, set Amp Vol to 0, use MOD envelope with AMP VOL as destination, set trigs, note length and envelope setttings to your preference. You also can use Grainer track filter on inputs. You may need to use a silent sample.
Not sure if this is possible with other machines, because they are post AMP…
Possible to make velocity layers, round robin for each layer…(forward or random).
I think 8 x 8 is simpler, 1s for each sound. 1 velocity template, 1 forward, 1 randomNoRepeat…
Up to 256 sounds.
(8 subtracks with 4 velocity layers with 8 round robin sounds for instance).
Has anyone tried creating a good guitar multi-sample library for Tonverk? That’s at the top of my list for “instruments I would want inside TV.”
I have uploaded a number of synth libraries and now drum kits to TV, so I’m looking for my next project. The easy plan is to sample my stage piano (acoustic and Rhodes sounds) through Mood in order to get the reversed piano sounds I love (at least until Elektron gives us a reverse delay effect). But I don’t know if I have a good idea for getting guitar into Tonverk without manually sampling myself playing at different volumes, chopping and exporting each sample, then setting up the multi.
Before I go through all that work, I’m curious if anyone else has tried and if it was worth it. With all the subtle dynamics of pick attack and left hand technique, it might not sound all that good played from a keyboard
On first glance it turned out OK - it worked, it has velocity layers and sounds decent, especially through Dirtshaper. The resulting multisample was ~290MB so I want to have another pass to thin it out, but other than that it seems promising for a nice, clean guitar sound for Tonverk.
Once I multisampled an acoustic intrument with Tangerine while listening too another instrument played via midi with auto sampling mode. Edited recordings after. Played via midi :
It is possible to sample needed notes with different velocities, then chop with single player start, eventually end or envelope. Velocities increasing. Make that on a pattern that would match decent length…like 4 seconds? Record the loop.
Auto sample with corresponding notes timing, velocity layers.
Modify the multi sample to match perfectly the loop with trim start / end. Replace multi sample recording by your loop.
I did it to make a multi sample from plocked comb filters values. It works. Chop editing is easier on computer of course.
I like the idea of doing it with Tonverk recording / editing. The procedure can be used to sample different instruments, using the same multi sample template.
Record with a metronome, adjust start to correct each recording imperfection…
Or…midify your fingers and use auto sampler! Solenoids ? Or just convert resample existing banks…
If you want your own multi samples from your instruments, you need audio editing.
I suppose this is bleeding obvious, but in this crazy world of multisampling, web apps, round robins, eldrums, etc, I was totally surprised at the quality resulting from just live sampling one long note from Diva into the TV and using that for a polyphonic pad.
Same thing happened to me when I sampled my Audrey II: being able to easily take pure feedback noise and tune it and make a chord with it and running it through a pretty much maxed out Rumsklang feels just aaaaaaaaaaaaamazing.
I am making guitar effects on TV with all the efx and other tricks and trades I do plan to have my own guitar samples library consisting of various categories, drones, loops. Chunks, synthi, arp, from internal and external resources of pedals. Plugins etc,
If anyone has Tangerine, Blackbox, Bitbox, or any 1010music sampler, record a long take with as many guitar notes as you want (up to 128). Convert the file to BB in a slicer, adjusting the points if they weren’t properly aligned with the automatic cut. Connect Tonverk to BB and convert it to Multisample. This gave me good results a couple of times. Otherwise, I suppose you can do the same thing from any DAW’s sampler. But to avoid latency, I prefer the first option.
I was able to convert some Blackbox multis to elmulti. I think it was with multisample architect, but it might have been another third-party online tool.
I have multisampled the Syntakt’s lovely bass with TV, taking only one note for each octave cause I needed the process to be fast. I found out I couldn’t really see the difference with sampling every 3 notes.
My conclusion is I’ll rather sample long notes than more notes from now on.