I made an eldrum file template allowing to load an internal recording as subtrack, already sliced.
RandomNoRepeat example :
The recording is a stock Subtracks with fx added. 8 bars of 4 sounds at 120 bpm.
Sharing 2 templates, 1 is 8 X4 subtracks with velocities (4 increasing velocities 1, 43, 85, 127) the other one is 8X4 subtracks with RandomNoRepeat.
It is possible to leave recordings in Recordings directly. Change audio file path to âŚ/âŚ/Recordings/LOOP8X4_01.wav to do so. (Parents folder with 2 dots/)
Replace audio by moving your recording (same name) in the right folder. Will replace older one. (To move files you need to use FUNC + ARROWS).
AFAIK not possible to duplicate folders or files. Possible to rename eledrum file.
You can duplicate several folders on a computer.
Possible to make velocity layers, round robin for each layerâŚ(forward or random).
I think 8 x 4 is simpler, 1s for each sound. 1 velocity template, 1 forward, 1 randomNoRepeatâŚ
Up to 256 sounds.
(8 subtracks with 4 velocity layers with 8 round robin sounds for instance).
Suggestions welcomeâŚ
So basically we make our own recording of 8 bars at 120bpm with a sound every quarter note trigger (the one in every 4 triggers) across all 8 bars, rename it to âLOOP8X4_RDM_01.wavâ or âLOOP8X4_01.wavâ and replace your kit audio in the folder? Otherwise weâd rename the eldrum and replace all instances of LOOP8X4[âŚ].wav in the eldrum file with the correct sample name and as long as it lines up in time itâs good to go?
TV doesnât have any onboard file management letting you save it to a specific folder to directly overwrite a new sample in the template (ie pre-load the template then update with a new recording without going back to your PC), does it?
Either way Iâm excited to try it and this will be a good vehicle for experimenting with random robin sounds, so thanks a lot!
Apparently you understood it perfectly well ! Thanks for external sum up.
Iâll add that for velocity based one, velocity in increasing. Doesnât matter for RDM one.
Velocity order could be reversed. I found that I preferred to work on velocity the other way, decreasing.
And hoping it works. It will anyway.
(Maybe after needed informations I forgot to transmit !)
It is possible to duplicate folders I made and rename them. With names fitting your logic.
As far as I understood, if you rename the .eldrum file, Tonverk will show its name. I went to that conclusion because I duplicated one .eldrum file in the same folder : I saw both in Subtracks list.
LOOP8X4_01
LOOP8X4_01 - Copy
This just made me to think you can select different behaviour with the same recording ! I didnât test yet.
Concerning the sampleâs reference, I have only one in the file, can be easily changed with a free text editor like Notepad +, select, CTRL+F, ReplaceâŚ
No, but you gave me the idea to change sample path if you want to keep them in recordings folder.
Test needed. Seems feasible.
Another lazy way idea : put .eldrum files in recordings folder. Not sure if they be recognized, but it would be a funny surprise.
Probably cleaner to move files in in USER > Drum Set imho.
I gave this a shot tonight, works well thanks! Completely mangled an amen break. I think it will be fun to use on melodic stuff too
I did manage to move the recording using FUNC-ARROWS. Learnt something new today, I had always hit NO to go up a folder when traversing the folder structure (which cancels the move operation.)
This is actually really cool if it works that way, since then you could have like â909 Drum Glitchâ and â909 Layer Kitâ operate on the exact same sample recording.
I think it makes perfect sense to store the recordings in a folder under USER/Drum Set with only the eldrum files that use those recordings, just wish you could save directly to that location after recording the sample since that one feature would enable at least template-based round/random robin kit creation on the fly without a computer, which is a lot better than the no options we have now for building up subtrack kits with layer complexity and sample rotation behavior. I hope @Elektron is monitoring this thread, lol.
Convert recording to Subtrack, Multi Sample or Wavefinder welcome too ! More options for machines related to eldrum and elmulti files ! (Round robin behavior, loop type, loop points, crossfadeâŚ)
Yeah, Iâve been hoping that the overbridge rollout includes a lot of sample management and kit building tools because thereâs so many possibilities that itâs a little disheartening to not have any official support for them beyond honoring the .eldrum and .elmulti files formats.
Hey,
The video demonstrate something that sound very cool, but I have no idea what Iâm looking at haha
In this context:
What is eldrum ?
What is round robin?
It is the file that will determine Subtracks machines behaviour, and load samples. It is possible to edit it with a text editor.
MySubtrackDrumKit.eldrum for instance.
It is a way to play several samples with the same note, alternatively. Can be in a specific order, or random.
Played with some more random ideas this morning to turn old patterns into new patterns:
take standard drum subtrack preset, get a good groove going across 8 voices
go shopping in my embarrassingly large collection of 8 bar loops/patterns (âexplorationsâ)
record 8 bar loop of full pattern, muting elements not wanted in the sample (kick and hats can come out for example)
overwrite wav file for one of the .emultis
replace standard drum subtrack with the new one
tweak subtracks to taste - set choke groups, repitch some parts, set filtering and envelopes to clean up mix
really interesting way to generate surprising rhythmic variants and breathe new life into old patterns - like a Grid machine on steroids. Will try to get some recordings this weekend of this new rabbithole!
I downloaded the file you shared and used GPT to assign the positions on 64 HITS instead of 32 but I canât seem to make it work. I tried different conversions of the file and different numbers of HITS (I thought that maybe the file was too long, so I shorted it to 8 hits). Every time I try to load SUBTRACKS Instrument it says âFAILED TO LOAD INSTRUMENT SUBTRACKS SAMPLE ERRORâ.
Here is the modified file, I deleted last TRIM END line, which caused that LOAD ERROR on my eldrum filesâŚ(I noticed this line wasnât present on elmulti filesâŚ)
Hope it worksâŚ
I canât listen to the result as I am at work atm but I managed to snag him on the TV and the audio files loaded at least! <3
The implications are pretty cool, in other files he has sampled different synths playing different notes, eight scale per sample, each one in the eight different notes, so you could in theory map each sample in a subtrack, each subtrack would get itâs own scale/modes, and go crazy with probabilistic scales/chords modulated by velocity and not only notes/pitch.
Resulting Subtracks demo or share welcome !