Curious…
For those who know, would a DT+ND2 be essentially an AR with ND synthesis? Sans master fx (love that distortion…OP have you worked that?)…copy/paste audio/midi trigs to other track to get a seamless “layering”?
I haven’t had a session with my AR in awhile so rivals may only seem appealing, but it’s a curious proposition…
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Sounds good to me… Keep the RYTM if you’re in this music genre. I tell what I honestly think… nothing can beat the RYTM in that territory ! instead MASTER it really !!! Compressor, Performance mode… Synthesis + Layering… Trig Conditions… Master the Effects two… Use the routing intelligently 
to get the sound you after. Maybe add an analog HEAT on top of That RYTM so you can Route things more easily to get all the voices as FAT and Punchy to get things nice in your mix.
I’m not far away from your music genre and I perfectly satisfied with the combo RYTM + HPD20
I have by the past ND2 + MD (with is cool too but I really love the low end of my new combo and I find it more immediate to get good results but I already mastered things so maybe skills is your problem on the RYTM and you need to get it better…)
My combo RYTM + HPD20 + AHEAT and mixed on a Behringer X18 so I have processing options to get the sound I want at the end… (so I guess it’s expensive at the end…)
But my config is LIVE and STUDIO in my mind maybe you’re just after studio use so if it’s the case you probably don’t need all of that of course
Maybe I should just be on here more often to get some motivational speeches from you.
Come to think of it, do you have any motivational posters available?
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I have 3 options, either keep at it and stop whining and learn, sell it and buy other stuff or keep at it and buy other stuff hehehe.
It might work if i just narrow it down. Do a factory reset, limit myself to each engine for a while. I’ll set some rules, seems like i need some restrictions on the Rytm.
Honestly, I think i should also quite the multi tracking for a while too. Maybe the spacing will be more natural when all tracks come through the master.
Start by replacing with sample the Synthesis voices you really didn’t like and Learn the synthesis voice shaping you Kept. + the processing and effects.
Try to get Dirt and Layers from gold baby and upload layers in the RYTM and try to Layering Synthesis you didn’t like too much with associated layers and see if you can get satisfied results on Layering method.
AFTER that if you still not convinced then Change gears and find something you like better
First … compliment for your tracks. I like them very much. Very natural rhythms, makes me want to move with.
As @William_WiLD already suggested … try to master the RYTM. It will pay off. But this doesn’t mean you have to stick with it alone. Sometimes we need more, then only one sound source to get, where we want to go
i love my rytm, it is an awesome machine, very complex in a good way and sounds great
you just need to dive in a bit, read the manual, learn the file/sound structure (which for me is the most painful), there is plenty material here, most used functions, etc
it is indeed a machine that requires you to mess around with it and you won’t get satisfying results right away, but when you do learn how to deal with the lady … well
go for a tanzbar if you need something more easy going, it sounds awesome
regarding the “dull” sound … or how you wanna call it … you can always tune / design the sound later in mixdown with eqs and compressors. For me personally I find the TR8 to bright / harsh for hihats and rides … always used Lowpass filter on it in mixdown. But yeah the TR8 is really hands on in live performances.
Dail in a Pultec EQ at 3k for a super nice ride or shaker. AR does a great shaker! Just mess around with the noise engine. If you think you still need some bass in the bassdrum (and the AR already has plenty of bass) use a Pultec EQ, set the lower freg to 30 or 60 hz, set the dip to 3 - 4 and the boost also … your subwoofer will thank you 
and there are so many more tricks to get the best sound out of you machine.
the real fun with the AR beginns, when using lfo to modulate the filter or a transientparameter of a bassdrum or … or … And I don´t know any other drum machine which is able to ping it’s own filter. To be honest, I don’t like the clap on the rytm … so where it’s sun, there is always shade too
At the end … AR and TR8 sounds boss on a proper pa / soundsystem! And the question is: do you like that sound and the way you have to dail it in?
agreed that’s a part where some new synthesis model should be very welcome… anyway clap is very very hard to get… we have heard so many times 606, 707, 808, 909 clap or whatever it’s like we waiting for these one and nothing can replace it. And don’t speak about people who simply don’t like CLAP at all because too disco"ish" or too cheesy… and prefer a SNAP instead (or a SNARE). I think the only Modern Clap sounding I heard recently is the one for the TANZBAR and only when it’s shaping very nicely and precisely…
Anyway I use Layering techniques on that voice to get something with depth but the main layer is usually 808 or 909 clap from DrivenMachineDrum, Hugo GhostBaby or Wave Alchemy Complete Drums Bundle.
I like to Layer it with Real Clap with good sound-design it makes good ones at the end.
Anyway I agreed
I have also a (not working anymore … RIP) MFB 522 and that clap I like much better … maybe simply the choice of parameters is better or simply other then on the Rytm. I agree a kind of ananog Snap sound would be nice. Or just take a sample and dail in some chorus or flanger afterwards. btw also just make a simple shaker sound with the noise engine of the rytm or with the a4 and dial in some chorus or simple modulate the peak filter freq with some random lfo can do some magic things … so many ways lead to Rome 
i love my rytm. but i could for sure see how it wouldn’t be for everyone.
i use my to just make rhythmic sounds. so ill just start working. get somwhere. kick up audacity and start recording. find some parts i like. chop those out. and SDS those back into the rytm kick im using. and continue on. i tend to also never resave my kits. so as i make new stuff. the kit keeps changing. so then i go back to older patterns. but the kit is now totally messed up.
if at any point i like what im doing enough. i multi track it into ableton.
though i might not just sample rytm stuff back to rytm. maybe ill make some noise on Korg gadget. and sample that.
and ill generally always use a sample and analog engine on each sound. here is some stuff. this is just from the rytm. sound sources from rytm and other stuff. but theses are 2 tracks out from the rytm (not done in anyways. more just experiments).
i think as just a a straight forward drum machine. the rytm would be pretty boring…
edit. not sure the file i uploaded to the forum is working.
euro-rack and immediacy don’t exactly go hand in hand so its hard to give advice to you, you seem to not know exactly what you want
Yeah so true. Seems like the clap is the hardest thing to synthesise and what I struggle most with to sound right with my drum machines. The Roland clap is very hard to synthesise with other machines and I also tend to layer my synthesised claps with samples to get that real snappy, punchy clap
Run the Rytm through the Analog Heat and that’ll give the drum machine some definition. For real.
Thanks mate, Yeah true. I’m still a student though, I cant go splashing around my money as i need to eat as well.
But very true
Yeah true, I’ve got my head around the architecture and stuff though. I really gel with that part, the issue is mainly about general synthesis I guess and the AR sound.
I thought the same…until I packed full of my favorite samples
samples samples samples samples samples samples samples samples samples.
For my taste, the synthesis is really really good for some things (kicks…bass…perc)
and really bad for other stuff (snares, snares …snares, floor tom, ride cymbal).
I was only after loading it up with tons and tons of sames was i truly happy.
Now I bloody love it.
just my 2c
I felt the same when i stacked it up. Maybe it let my maintenance slip a bit.
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Analog,
Or to take Arms against a Sea of drum beats,
And by selling the Rytm end them.
For e most Poets
For now, I’d consider myself to be a saved rytm wanderer.
When light tips to darkness, I will seek wisdom in this topic and endeavor to wander some more.
Edit: Either way i had to wait until this aprils update anyway:)