I’ve been reading the various tips and tricks PDFs that float around regarding the MnM and I came across these 2 bits:
“Time stretch on the BBOX! Use a highspeed arpeggiator to retrig the BBOX sounds. Use an LFO to scroll the start point (lfo speed+depth governs amount and speed of stretch), remove amp trigs from the arp, and set up a separate envelope to control amp in normal fashion from the sequencer/keyboard. Suddenly the BBOX became the number one ambient sound generator.”
and
"If you use the arp on a track with the Bbox, and set it to the fastest setting, you can control sample start position with a one shot lfo and ramp setting, and get a timestretch effekt on the samples. Remember to turn down the volume before you do this. hehe. And set a second lfo to one shot, and use it to control the amp. Turn down the base setting a little to smooth things out. It can be pretty cool."
However, I can’t seem to figure it out. I set the arp to a high speed (1 or 2 usually), turn off the amp trigs in the arp, but I can’t figure out which AMP they’re saying to assign an envelope control, or even where to find the envelope control. Are they talking about using another LFO as the envelope? If I turn off AMP in the ARP, then when I hit a key, it plays the sound once and that’s it. I’m confused.
Has anyone tried this? I’m super interested in how this all works.
Do you have the retrigger options set to max on the bbox synth page? Also make sure that decay and release are set to max on the amp so that it sustains.
basically it should be behaving like a simple granular sample player. retrig at top speed, and slowly sweep the start point to move through the sample.
I haven’t done this on the MM, but i do it a lot on the OT as a custom wave traveller. It’s a cool idea, i really like the lofi sound of the bbox samples. Will have to try when i get home.
So i was playing with this last night. I had to have the amp trigger on the arp on, but got some interesting ambient stuff going on messing with the amp and start and repeat speed, pitch, etc. Not really sure if it’s anything along the lines of what the original tip intended, but i thought it was pretty cool. I should have recorded something. Maybe tonight. Maybe we can make it a mini challenge. Make a track using only BBOX. or maybe only one track of BBOX?
I had the amp on too on the arp. Really cool trick. Fun to play with. Other than the start param, experiment with setting LFO to DEC, and also try messing around with radically diffferent ATTACK settings on the amp page. And dont forget all the stuff you can do with the arp in itself. Typing in chords on single steps is fun, mute som arp-trigs, set octaves to alter, different off-sets at each arp-step etc.
Also try adjusting the filter envelope on the filter page.
I think it might have been a mistake that he mentioned to mute arp-amp-trigs. It doesn´t make any sense to me. But def great trick to use the arp as a BBX retrigger. Opens up to a lot of intereseting sounds and textures
Maybe we can make it a mini challenge. Make a track using only BBOX. or maybe only one track of BBOX?