Hello dear all, I’ve been fiddling with OT for awhile but i’ve been super puzzeled upon this jam made by an user on mod wiggler. dub techno hardware jam 20151205 - YouTube
In particular the chord pad in the background and the chord stab moving around. How is it that it sounds so thick? Is the setup? The EQ?
More information of the setup used in the jam is a mixer setup with Roland RE-201, Boss DM-300 into Sovtek Small Stone, Jomox T-Resonator, Sherman Filterbank and a Alesis Quadraverb, all set up on aux sends, and returning to regular channels so they can be EQ’d and fed to each other with varying amounts of feedback.
I’m not sure how to achieve this kind of sound and i would love help and suggestions to achieve something close on OT or maybe even ableton if its not viable! In addition, I m using the voltek labs raw waveform chord pack.
Sounds to me like it’s all about the right combo of FX settings. It’s heavily processed. Impossible to really give an easy answer how to achieve it, as it would take a lot of trial and error with various FX pedals (or VSTs if in Ableton).
Not what you were asking for specifically, but I thought this was a well crafted sample pack which I suspect was put together by someone with some love and respect for the sound: Dub Techno Elements - Sample Pack – abitdeeper
(affordable too!)
Vertical 1 - 6 are fx sends. Horizontal 1 - 6 are mixer channels that the respective fx are returned on. Channel 0 is the synth stab. Send levels are in % (0 - 100). So in the case above the xt stab is sent to the 'verb and t-res @ 20 and 45%, respectively.
By moving the channel faders, all manner of morphing feedback can be created.
The actual fx units are (in ascending numeric order): Boss DM-300, Roland RE-201, Alesis Quadraverb, Jomox T-Resonator, Sherman Filterbank 2, Sovtek Small Stone phaser.
The other sounds in this jam are from MS-20 mini (the main bass / drum) and FM8 (background pad drone), high-pass filtered 909 hihat and snare samples, and a very slowed down tabla loop."
Just wanted to say I’ve listened to that YouTube clip many times over the past few years. Still an inspirational jam to this day. STK has done a lot of great clips and soundcloud jams (among other things, I’m sure). I think he even developed a space echo vst back in the day.
Highly processed indeed.
I use Ableton, so I’m thinking in Ableton terms when I think about how I would try for something similar.
Sampled (and resampled) chord stab? Buffer Shuffler type thing going on? Definitely a lot of panning (auto-pan), gating (gate), choppy sounds (buffer-shuffler). Put some randomized max4live LFOs and sequencers on things. Ableton’s Echo with a modulated filter.
I think it mainly sounds so thick because there is room in the arrangement, and freq spectrum, for it to shine through.
Slight tangent, but I remember feeling really gratified to first discover that the Monomachine could make those dubbed out minor chords, especially when fed through an El Capistan and some reverb. Okay, colder than your average dubby serving, but delightful nonetheless!
As an additional idea: You could send those sounds through an impulse response of various objects (Tubes, buckets, that sort of thing) with the convolution reverb of your choice.
These sounds mostly come out of processed feedback/delay loops with internal processing where a somewhat standard (variations come to play) dub techno chord has been fed… I have made an Octatrack patch that does exactly that maybe I’ll cover it in another post
Hi, chords for dubtechno tracks are what I’ve been working on assiduously for a couple of years, since I released my 4-track EP in 2019 and think that in each track I used a different chord sound. Initially I used Reason, then the MicroKorg, then the NordLead A1 until I created a fantastic chord with the Analog Four, very similar to those made with FM synthesis with Digitone.
Historically Moritz Von Oswald used the prophet, but as someone else wrote it depends not so much on which synth you used but on what effect you put into it. For example, with the analog four I’m working in this way: I send L-R into the mixer, then I open the sends where the Re-20 is connected and in return I don’t connect it on the return channel of the mixer, but on another channel of the mixer. mixer so you can equalize it and treat it as if it were a sound.
Many times you hear more than the synth sound alone, the union of the sound + the return.
It’s a complex discussion to make, let’s say I understood this: everyone experiments and finds their own way. In this video the chords are really liquid wow.
You can’t really dub if you don’t have effects inside the delay loop, try it and you’ll have great results. And also I’d be interested in the A4 patch you mention about the chord.
