To me orbital were THE pioneers of live electronic dance music. When they originally used the mmt8’s for sequencing everything was more spontaneous, things often went wrong and they had to wing it on the fly, they virtually took their entire studio on stage with them. Their Glastonbury 94 headline was amazing, it could have gone 2 ways but is now heralded as one of the greatest gigs of all time, Their first 4 albums are classics. However I think internal politics have affected things since, their only decent recent album was wonky and the brothers have split up and fell out with each other multiple times since. Their modern sets run by Ableton and iPads are not the same, although the recent green tour was the best orbital tour I’ve been to for many years, mainly because it was refreshing to hear the early stuff and not the same old greatest hits that has become a bit boring.
This is Your subjective interpretation though. What they do now is re-releasing each album with bonus tracks, remixes, unreleased tracks from the time a particular album was released .This anniversary album re-release is accompanied by a tour where the album is played entirely.
So yes, it begins with Green album obviously, but next years will focus on later albums if all goes according to plan. It has nothing to do with catering to the needs of this supposed group of „core original fans”. And who are those exactly? Only people over 50 years old can be „true fans” of Orbital? Please stop insulting people and posting this nonsense…
Er, sorry, what? I said these were my opinions and as far as I know we’re allowed to speak our opinions, aren’t we?
Unless you are Orbital, then how is your opinion more relevant?
I have collected pretty much everything from Orbital up until mid 90s and a few track since. I’ve seen them many times over 3 decades, so I believe my opinion is valid, as a fan.
Who made you the thought police?
Word!
I could You ask You the same question – what makes You decide who’s a Orbital fan or not? You sound very dismissive of anyone who „wasn’t there in 1991”.
Not really, but people who can’t differenciate between cheese and the underground, or exclude the possibility that something can be cheese just because they enjoy it, i’ll accept i’ve probably been slightly rude towards.
However, opinions can be challenged and i’m happy to read people that challenge mine as long as they understand I can challenge theirs.
Also, I originally stated that my opinion was my opinion and people challenged that, so I replied. It’s the democratic way.
I think orbital have gone from techno/ rave pioneers and musically amazing work to this spice girls novelty act phase that I personally am not a fan of. When they played this track at the end of the green album gigs there was a definite shift in the audience reaction. It was so out of place.
Well, you’ve basically said that the Green album was the only true and honest representation of underground rave culture in Orbital’s discography, while later albums leaned towards mainstream pop music and a wider audience. And today, after three decades (!) the Hartnoll brothers realised what a huge mistake it was and started touring the Green Album to make OG ravers happy.
So don’t be surprised that what You hear is
WHOOP WHOOP
THE SOUND OF DA THOUGHT POLICE
Yes indeed.
Er, ok.
As I said though, my opinions are my opnions. If you choose to misread them then write a 10 minute reply with “whoop whoop” in, I guess you’re just arguing for the sake of trolling rather that wanting to debate this?
People respond negatively to the dramatic posturing about artist “selling out”. Framing the juvenile gatekeeping and blaming whatever supposed haters around you “just having opinions” is unnecessary and pretty bad faith refusal to acknowledge.
It’s not enough for you to not like something, it needs to fit into black and white thinking and the need to structure the world into evil enemies and brave heroes, and that is quite silly!
Wandering into a generally positive thread, stirring shit, then demanding people “Debate me, COWARDS” is even sillier!
Not liking something is okay, not liking something and not making it as big of a deal is great!
Edit: Anyway, now I need to get up to date on everything Orbital has been up to since beyond the cheeze
I started off positively saying I thought the Mel B performance wasn’t my cup of tea, then the negativity came back, with nerdy jokes.
So, whatever man.
You are misreading my intentions though in all honesty. Regardless of whether you agree or not.
I agree with jigs to some extent, the orbital of today is very different to the orbital of the 90’s and they have increased the cheese content, it started with Belinda Carlisle in 94 (was good at the time) then bon jovi, then carpenters (I also thought this was good) a bit of Stephen hawking ( went down well at the Paralympic’s )Brian cox (wasn’t much for that)and finishing with the spice girls
Yeah, I think most of the people responding were mostly noting the history of references and quotations in their work, not really defending the worst of it or somehow living for them. Obviously it works better in small, spread out doses and better targeted.
No worries!
I think you do need to lie down though man after the previous post as anger is not good
This is a good recent article on orbital
yes, techno/rave in the 90s was notorious for the complete absence of pop music samples recontextualized for the warehouse and rave fields. not sure what the Hartnolls were ever thinking using them at all, really
A very concise and honest account of themselves. Slightly sad really and a timely reminder that life is too short for getting involved in bickering.
After the guardian bit above, I misread that as bricklaying for a sec
The spectrum-y interpersonal dynamic there hits hard! Thanks for that.
I thought deeper was the highlight of the set but would have been even better without Tilda swinton, surprised they didn’t add this to the set on the recent tour